Bellamy on his future (and the fall out) {merged}

Re: Bellamy on his future

Shaelumstash said:
dref619 said:
oh your right there, he shouldnt ave spoke out, and i think everyone would agree with you on that
but some of the things he has said are , concerning

He's said the club can be ruthless - good! I want them to be, because sometimes you have to be ruthless to be successful.

He said Mancini doesn't speak with the players much on a social basis, again I would say this is fairly normal at the elite level. Capello is hardly chummy with his players but he's one of the most successful managers of all time.

The thing that worries me is players breaking ranks with the dressing room and seeking to further their own gains through the media. There is no other reason for him to do that interview other than to alert other managers in the league that he wants to leave. He won't issue a transfer request or say he wants to leave as he will lose his bonus. Prick

Not at international level he isn't, he's been an abject failure.......i take your point though.
 
Re: Bellamy on his future

IMO, Mancini probably made an effort with players like Bellamy when he first came to the club but was more than likely put off them by their attitude to the dismissal of Hughes. It should be then up to the players to show that they have faith in the manager which I don't think has been done by Bellamy and a few of the players.

Bellamy should be knocking on the managers door telling him how much he wants to play for him and the club instead of doing it via the media.
 
Re: Bellamy on his future

bluemoon32 said:
Shaelumstash said:
He's said the club can be ruthless - good! I want them to be, because sometimes you have to be ruthless to be successful.

He said Mancini doesn't speak with the players much on a social basis, again I would say this is fairly normal at the elite level. Capello is hardly chummy with his players but he's one of the most successful managers of all time.

The thing that worries me is players breaking ranks with the dressing room and seeking to further their own gains through the media. There is no other reason for him to do that interview other than to alert other managers in the league that he wants to leave. He won't issue a transfer request or say he wants to leave as he will lose his bonus. Prick

Not at international level he isn't, he's been an abject failure.......i take your point though.

Neither was Alex Ferguson, he didn't make it out of the groups with a talented Scottish side, do you rate him?
 
Re: Bellamy on his future

Shaelumstash said:
bluemoon32 said:
Not at international level he isn't, he's been an abject failure.......i take your point though.

Neither was Alex Ferguson, he didn't make it out of the groups with a talented Scottish side, do you rate him?

Both are great club managers obviously, still found wanting on the international stage though.
Anyway, this is about Bellamy
 
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I thought Bellamy last season was f-ing fantastic. I have previously said that i thought we lacked passion and there is no way you could accuse him of that. Plus, he is a quality player. Those 2 goals he scored to equalise against the scum will stay with me forever (and the celebration after!!)

I hope he stays at City in the 25 - he will create and score plenty of goals for us if he does.

CB
 
Re: Bellamy on his future

Spindash said:
Shaelumstash said:
He's dead f ucking right mate! Lol??? Show me a quote of Robinho's slagging off the manager and the club in such a blatent manner as this? Stop reading The Sun and open your eyes

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/05/robinho-questions-roberto-mancini

I don't speak Portugese so I don't know what his exact quote actually was here, but the word "ability" could quite easily mean that Mancini made a mistake. Lot's of words don't have a literal translation from one langauge to another. I'm sure "important" has a slightly different meaning in Italian as the context in which Mancini uses it is often different to how an Englishman would use it.
 
Re: Bellamy on his future

Shaelumstash said:
Blue Phil said:

He's dead f ucking right mate! Lol??? Show me a quote of Robinho's slagging off the manager and the club in such a blatent manner as this? Stop reading The Sun and open your eyes
I don't read the Sun ta, and my eyes are very much open.
Constantly showing descent to Hughes on and off the pitch (with Elano and Jo).
Fleeing to Brazil without the club's permission (suspiciously around the same time that the Kaka deal fell through).
Half arsed performances this season, Tottenham and Everton performances were the worse i've ever seen from a player on £160,000 a week. 10 games in the league and no goals because he was dis-interested.
Actually did slag off Hughes tactic's etc.
Even know when we have finally managed to get rid of the little shit he still moans to the press about how he doesn't want to come back to City and how much he loves Brazil.

People lick Robinho's arse because he is a "Galactico" (god know's how he earned the title, Madrid snapped our hands of when we offered £30million). Oh and he is dog balls away from home, not exactly a title winning player. I would love to have the Robinho from the Brazil side however, sadly i doubt we ever will.

Bellamy hasn't even slagged Mancini off, all he has said is that he want's to play for City, has turned down Wolfsburg to play for City, He has tried his best always in a City shirt and has just had his best season, but he still thinks (judging from pre-season) that he won't make the squad.

Bellamy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robinho
 
Re: Bellamy on his future

Blue Phil said:
Shaelumstash said:
He's dead f ucking right mate! Lol??? Show me a quote of Robinho's slagging off the manager and the club in such a blatent manner as this? Stop reading The Sun and open your eyes
I don't read the Sun ta, and my eyes are very much open.
Constantly showing descent to Hughes on and off the pitch (with Elano and Jo).
Fleeing to Brazil without the club's permission (suspiciously around the same time that the Kaka deal fell through).
Half arsed performances this season, Tottenham and Everton performances were the worse i've ever seen from a player on £160,000 a week. 10 games in the league and no goals because he was dis-interested.
Actually did slag off Hughes tactic's etc.
Even know when we have finally managed to get rid of the little shit he still moans to the press about how he doesn't want to come back to City and how much he loves Brazil.

People lick Robinho's arse because he is a "Galactico" (god know's how he earned the title, Madrid snapped our hands of when we offered £30million). Oh and he is dog balls away from home, not exactly a title winning player. I would love to have the Robinho from the Brazil side however, sadly i doubt we ever will.

Bellamy hasn't even slagged Mancini off, all he has said is that he want's to play for City, has turned down Wolfsburg to play for City, He has tried his best always in a City shirt and has just had his best season, but he still thinks (judging from pre-season) that he won't make the squad.

Bellamy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robinho

So Bellamy hasn't shown descent to Mancini with this interview?! He's said he's not spoken to him for 6 months. Even if this is true, Bellamy is out of order on 2 levels:
1- He shouldn't be breaking ranks with the dressing room and airing this through the media.
2 - He should have actively sought out Mancini to discuss this before airing this in public!

This thread is about Bellamy, so i'm not going to turn it in to one about Robinho. I understand some of the greivances people have about Robinho, but it stinks of hypocrisy that these same people completely overlook what Bellamy has done
 

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