Bellamy's been banned from the club

Didsbury Dave said:
squirtyflower said:
very true indeed
JMA wrote a very good post last night suggesting that all the blood letting should have stopped a year ago and we can't keep repeating the same mistakes year in year out, otherwise we'll remain in this circle of underachievement we've been in since swales' heyday

of course some of the children come on here gobbing off about bellamy because they can only rationalise the loss of a player by abusing him
they have their new toys to play with so its time to throw away the old ones with complete disdain

a couple of players being forced out have made it clear they wish to stay and fight for their places and cannot be accused of shirking hard training by anyone on here

maybe they're not good enough, maybe they're a cancer, maybe grudges can't be settled, who knows?
but what i do know is that i can't walk into a job and get rid of those i don't like or don't do things exactly as i say. I have to motivate and inspire them to do things in the right way and to get them to perform to my expected level
it's about time our managers did that too

now back to the slagging off chaps!


I'm with you on this one Squirty.

I don't like the acrimony and recriminations which have surrounded our club for the last six months.

You can't run a football club like a boot camp. It needs to be a place where players want to play.

I can just about undertand Bellamy being surplus to requirments, although it isn't a decision I would have made.

But all this public blood-letting does the club no good at all.

I dont see any public blood-letting from the club and only see Bellamy talking to the press The club are trying to keep this in house but you cannot prevent papers speculating and at pressent this is all it is speculation.
 
YourBirdCanSing said:
The video IS uncomfortable watching. If this is an example of how he's behaved, then maybe it is time to let him go.

But I keep coming back to the same thought:  Player of the Season Dunne, Player of the Season Ireland, second best Player of the Season Bellamy.

Don't want to hear any nonsense about 'being ruthless.' They ALL deserve respect and a decent farewell, not to be discarded like dirt or forced out without even a thank you.

'Disruptive influence?' 'Not good enough for where we're going?' Maybe. But as a club we're behaving diabolically in certain areas.

Tevez was  disruptive last season, Given's press conference last week was disruptive.

Does anyone honestly think that Balotelli isn't going to give quote after quote to the Italian press over the next two seasons? Once that's been mis-reported and taken out of context, then  mis-translated by the tabloids here, what happens? Let him off like Tevez? Or discard him like garbage?

Bellamy sounds like a dick. But Mancini's taken this too personally, because he just doesn't like him.

You can love City and still disapprove of things they do, and I DON'T like how we're handling certain things at the moment.

This is a good post.

What's important is the message that all this poor handling of outgoing players sends to the current ones.

Now I don't know how popular the likes of Bellamy and Ireland are in the dressing room, but I know that they join a long list of players who feel they have been badly treated at times.

Bellamy is obviously surplus to requirements. What is wrong with someone sitting him down when they come back for pre-season, and saying "Thanks for everything but we are moving on. You keep stum, we keep stum and we will try to get you a decent move"?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
YourBirdCanSing said:
The video IS uncomfortable watching. If this is an example of how he's behaved, then maybe it is time to let him go.

But I keep coming back to the same thought:  Player of the Season Dunne, Player of the Season Ireland, second best Player of the Season Bellamy.

Don't want to hear any nonsense about 'being ruthless.' They ALL deserve respect and a decent farewell, not to be discarded like dirt or forced out without even a thank you.

'Disruptive influence?' 'Not good enough for where we're going?' Maybe. But as a club we're behaving diabolically in certain areas.

Tevez was  disruptive last season, Given's press conference last week was disruptive.

Does anyone honestly think that Balotelli isn't going to give quote after quote to the Italian press over the next two seasons? Once that's been mis-reported and taken out of context, then  mis-translated by the tabloids here, what happens? Let him off like Tevez? Or discard him like garbage?

Bellamy sounds like a dick. But Mancini's taken this too personally, because he just doesn't like him.

You can love City and still disapprove of things they do, and I DON'T like how we're handling certain things at the moment.

This is a good post.

What's important is the message that all this poor handling of outgoing players sends to the current ones.

Now I don't know how popular the likes of Bellamy and Ireland are in the dressing room, but I know that they join a long list of players who feel they have been badly treated at times.

Bellamy is obviously surplus to requirements. What is wrong with someone sitting him down when they come back for pre-season, and saying "Thanks for everything but we are moving on. You keep stum, we keep stum and we will try to get you a decent move"?

adding "and thanks particularly for your heartfelt expression of grief when we got turned over by Spurs and Everton"
 
johnny crossan said:
Didsbury Dave said:
This is a good post.

What's important is the message that all this poor handling of outgoing players sends to the current ones.

Now I don't know how popular the likes of Bellamy and Ireland are in the dressing room, but I know that they join a long list of players who feel they have been badly treated at times.

Bellamy is obviously surplus to requirements. What is wrong with someone sitting him down when they come back for pre-season, and saying "Thanks for everything but we are moving on. You keep stum, we keep stum and we will try to get you a decent move"?

adding "and thanks particularly for your heartfelt expression of grief when we got turned over by Spurs and Everton"

That's the problem Johnny.

It doesn't need to be like that.

In business it is called the "arm around the shoulder".

Make them feel you're doing them a favour by "letting them go".

It keeps morale up amongst everyone else and makes things easy all round.
 
johnny crossan said:
Didsbury Dave said:
This is a good post.

What's important is the message that all this poor handling of outgoing players sends to the current ones.

Now I don't know how popular the likes of Bellamy and Ireland are in the dressing room, but I know that they join a long list of players who feel they have been badly treated at times.

Bellamy is obviously surplus to requirements. What is wrong with someone sitting him down when they come back for pre-season, and saying "Thanks for everything but we are moving on. You keep stum, we keep stum and we will try to get you a decent move"?

adding "and thanks particularly for your heartfelt expression of grief when we got turned over by Spurs and Everton"

unforgivable that high five with twitcher
 
Didsbury Dave said:
YourBirdCanSing said:
The video IS uncomfortable watching. If this is an example of how he's behaved, then maybe it is time to let him go.

But I keep coming back to the same thought:  Player of the Season Dunne, Player of the Season Ireland, second best Player of the Season Bellamy.

Don't want to hear any nonsense about 'being ruthless.' They ALL deserve respect and a decent farewell, not to be discarded like dirt or forced out without even a thank you.

'Disruptive influence?' 'Not good enough for where we're going?' Maybe. But as a club we're behaving diabolically in certain areas.

Tevez was  disruptive last season, Given's press conference last week was disruptive.

Does anyone honestly think that Balotelli isn't going to give quote after quote to the Italian press over the next two seasons? Once that's been mis-reported and taken out of context, then  mis-translated by the tabloids here, what happens? Let him off like Tevez? Or discard him like garbage?

Bellamy sounds like a dick. But Mancini's taken this too personally, because he just doesn't like him.

You can love City and still disapprove of things they do, and I DON'T like how we're handling certain things at the moment.

This is a good post.

What's important is the message that all this poor handling of outgoing players sends to the current ones.

Now I don't know how popular the likes of Bellamy and Ireland are in the dressing room, but I know that they join a long list of players who feel they have been badly treated at times.

Bellamy is obviously surplus to requirements. What is wrong with someone sitting him down when they come back for pre-season, and saying "Thanks for everything but we are moving on. You keep stum, we keep stum and we will try to get you a decent move"?

You make a fair point about sitting Bellamy down if he had never been in contention for a place in the 25

But what if he was in contention or a back up if we didn't get our transfer targets. The club would have held off speaking to him until it was sure he was not required. But Bellamy can't see the bigger picture, it's all about me me me. He is an employee being handsomely rewarded, he should have worked hard , kept his gob shut and waited to see what happens. Who knows if he had done this he may have found himself in the 25. Nobody likes a troublemaker.

Like so many professional footballer Bellamy is a manchild. They don't grow up because they don't have to.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
johnny crossan said:
adding "and thanks particularly for your heartfelt expression of grief when we got turned over by Spurs and Everton"

That's the problem Johnny.

It doesn't need to be like that.

In business it is called the "arm around the shoulder".

Make them feel you're doing them a favour by "letting them go".

It keeps morale up amongst everyone else and makes things easy all round.


Was there any need for Bellamy doing a tv interview questioning how Mancini manages and motivates his team-Mancini quickly came out to deny that he hasnt stroked his buttocks for 6 months so therefore undermining the manager means Bellamy is out on his ear.
 
Im not sure if hes been banned... apparently he wanted to leave and we have only heard this of one of the papers.
 
flb said:
Didsbury Dave said:
That's the problem Johnny.

It doesn't need to be like that.

In business it is called the "arm around the shoulder".

Make them feel you're doing them a favour by "letting them go".

It keeps morale up amongst everyone else and makes things easy all round.


Was there any need for Bellamy doing a tv interview questioning how Mancini manages and motivates his team-Mancini quickly came out to deny that he hasnt stroked his buttocks for 6 months so therefore undermining the manager means Bellamy is out on his ear.

seems to me he has the hump because he ain't going to be playing regular
and i'm sure he said a while back he knew this day would come because of the clubs direction and that he was happy to be at the start of it.
 

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