Benifit System in Britian

1, A free welfare state and free immigration cannot, will not and quite clearly doesn't work, it's impossible.

2, We also have a work shy generation of scroungers who were born here.

Two reasons why the benefit system gets abused so much and the people who most need it don't get half what they should do.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
mrcunny said:
denislawsbackheel said:
How do we make "stuff" that can compete with people who make the same "stuff" in other parts of the world for a tenth of what we have to pay as a living wage?

germany,sweden,france and others do...


France!!!!
Their economy is in a worse state than ours!
Although I admire their total independence in the arms market.They make their own planes, aircraft carriers, missiles. Even their nuclear force de frappe is theirs to control unlike ours where we'd need permission off the US to ever use it.

do you think we could ever compete with Germany as a manufacturer again?
I don't.

sadly i dont, the governments have sold off everything that was of any value,sold our gold reserves,and scattered our money to the 4 corners of the earth.
I kinda fear for this country with manufacturing down to a all time low,population to a all time high,and without a generation of skilled men..
 
mancitygaz said:
1, A free welfare state and free immigration cannot, will not and quite clearly doesn't work, it's impossible.

2, We also have a work shy generation of scroungers who were born here.

Two reasons why the benefit system gets abused so much and the people who most need it don't get half what they should do.

Two reasons that aren't proven, are clearly stereotypical and are clearly biased.

Science, how does it work?
 
Damocles said:
mancitygaz said:
1, A free welfare state and free immigration cannot, will not and quite clearly doesn't work, it's impossible.

2, We also have a work shy generation of scroungers who were born here.

Two reasons why the benefit system gets abused so much and the people who most need it don't get half what they should do.

Two reasons that aren't proven, are clearly stereotypical and are clearly biased.

Science, how does it work?
Biased and stereotypical! It's common sense ffs.
 
mrcunny said:
denislawsbackheel said:
mrcunny said:
germany,sweden,france and others do...


France!!!!
Their economy is in a worse state than ours!
Although I admire their total independence in the arms market.They make their own planes, aircraft carriers, missiles. Even their nuclear force de frappe is theirs to control unlike ours where we'd need permission off the US to ever use it.

do you think we could ever compete with Germany as a manufacturer again?
I don't.

sadly i dont, the governments have sold off everything that was of any value,sold our gold reserves,and scattered our money to the 4 corners of the earth.
I kinda fear for this country with manufacturing down to a all time low,population to a all time high,and without a generation of skilled men..


Could you please explain the point of having any gold reserves?
And I am quite serious. It seems to me the idea of national gold reserves is a MIckey Mouse concept.
 
The fact is that you can be born into a jobless household , leave school receive benefits , impregnate someone , be given a house , rent paid for and more benefits given as you breed more , all until the day you die and have never contributed anything towards the society that pays for you to do this because " it's my rights ".



These are shining examples of our benefits system.

[bigimg]http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_02/shanfamilyDM1403_468x325.jpg[/bigimg]
 
Ardwick AFC said:
I watched it. It was depressing. There was a bunch of teenagers on this job finding scheme to get them off benefits, and the presenter asked them how many of their parents were currently working. Only one of the 15 teens raised their hand. There's just so much apathy and lack of ambition out there. Comments like, "Why should I work for £6.50 an hour, I'm better off sitting at home!" Erm.....get a better job then, you fat lazy prick.

It's so easy with a little bit of will power. You start off on the bottom rung and work your way up. Then take it as far as you want.

i.e. Join Tesco as an 18k pa handyman, go on one of their college schemes where you can become qualified in a trade while also earning a wage. Become a qualified electrician>>>>Wages go up to 26k pa. After a few years of on the job experience become self employed >>>> earn 50k pa. A few years later go to the bank and take a loan out to start your own business, employ a gang of electricians >>>> Earn 200k pa.

This pretty much applies to any job in the world. If you don't get off your arse, you'll never know.

Agreed. It's all about desire and ambition. if you want it enough then you can make it happen. If you expect other people to jusy deliver it to you then of course you will always be disappointed and end up blaming 'them'.
 
Lucky13 said:
The fact is that you can be born into a jobless household , leave school receive benefits , impregnate someone , be given a house , rent paid for and more benefits given as you breed more , all until the day you die and have never contributed anything towards the society that pays for you to do this because " it's my rights ".



These are shining examples of our benefits system.

[bigimg]http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_02/shanfamilyDM1403_468x325.jpg[/bigimg]

I can fake!

The one on the left is clearly the lead singer of the Manics.
 

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