Benifit System in Britian

[bear in blue]

Imo nothing in life is for free,even if some cant find work they should somehow contribute to the community instead of watching jeremy kyle and sitting on their pot smoking ass....

They shouldn't get ANYTHING for free. Why not make them do community service, clean the streets or something like that. Absolute BONKERS!!

 

[Halfpenny]

Imo nothing in life is for free,even if some cant find work they should somehow contribute to the community instead of watching jeremy kyle and sitting on their pot smoking ass....

They shouldn't get ANYTHING for free. Why not make them do community service, clean the streets or something like that. Absolute BONKERS!!

Voluntary work yes, but that is just wrong. They aren't criminals.

 

[law74]

Imo nothing in life is for free,even if some cant find work they should somehow contribute to the community instead of watching jeremy kyle and sitting on their pot smoking ass....

They shouldn't get ANYTHING for free. Why not make them do community service, clean the streets or something like that. Absolute BONKERS!!

Then what do you do with the people the council currently employ to sweep the streets?

The welfare system needs a radical root and branch reform, of that there is no doubt in my mind, but the time to do it is in time of boom, not now when the country is on its knees and there are many many people that are looking for work but cant find any.
One way to help change things would be to start building affordable social housing on brown field sites, employing brickies, labourers, plasterers sparks, plumbers, roofies etc this would enable these firms to train apprentices. These houses could then become the property of the local housing association or council, the rent from those that are in employment would then be used to build more houses, and maintenence of those built, the housing benefit from those on Benefits would be ploughed back into the public purse instead of some private landlords back pocket.
Get poeple working again, earning a wage, spending it in their local shops, cafes, pubs etc, these shops pubs etc then need to employ more people, helping more come off benefit and earning a wage, stopping the current downward cycle and helping us recover the economy.
Some will say we cant afford to do this, i say we cant afford another lost generation.

 

[Fame Monster]

Biased and stereotypical! It's common sense ffs.

No it isn't. "Common sense" implies that the subject is so easy to understand that you would have to be a complete moron or a child not to understand it.

The economical system is so unbelievably complex that even I, a master of fag packet economics, don't have a fucking clue how to fix the problem.

It is common sense, though. And it most definitely is not complex economics.

If you can't understand those simple points, you might as well give up now.

Fair do's to someone who loses their job and in between finding another one gets help from the system but anyone who is quite content to sit around on their arses and take take take when they could be working for a living is scum in my book.

You would rather spent time doing something you dislike than get if for free?

Imo nothing in life is for free,even if some cant find work they should somehow contribute to the community instead of watching jeremy kyle and sitting on their pot smoking ass....

They shouldn't get ANYTHING for free. Why not make them do community service, clean the streets or something like that. Absolute BONKERS!!

Then what do you do with the people the council currently employ to sweep the streets?

The welfare system needs a radical root and branch reform, of that there is no doubt in my mind, but the time to do it is in time of boom, not now when the country is on its knees and there are many many people that are looking for work but cant find any.
One way to help change things would be to start building affordable social housing on brown field sites, employing brickies, labourers, plasterers sparks, plumbers, roofies etc this would enable these firms to train apprentices. These houses could then become the property of the local housing association or council, the rent from those that are in employment would then be used to build more houses, and maintenence of those built, the housing benefit from those on Benefits would be ploughed back into the public purse instead of some private landlords back pocket.
Get poeple working again, earning a wage, spending it in their local shops, cafes, pubs etc, these shops pubs etc then need to employ more people, helping more come off benefit and earning a wage, stopping the current downward cycle and helping us recover the economy.
Some will say we cant afford to do this, i say we cant afford another lost generation.

I agree. We need more social housing.

 

[bear in blue]

Imo nothing in life is for free,even if some cant find work they should somehow contribute to the community instead of watching jeremy kyle and sitting on their pot smoking ass....

They shouldn't get ANYTHING for free. Why not make them do community service, clean the streets or something like that. Absolute BONKERS!!

Voluntary work yes, but that is just wrong. They aren't criminals.

Im not suggesting treat them as criminals, just the fact that they have to do something at least. what better than something to benefit the community. Perhaps the tag Community Service gave the wrong impression!

The majority of people get up in the morning and go to their place of work and grind the fuck out of it simply to earn enough to feed/house/clothe themselves and their family. Just really gets my back up the lazy fuckers who get up, sit on their arse then go to the pub! Some of us are prepared to wait till our 60s to do that!!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Biased and stereotypical! It's common sense ffs.

No it isn't. "Common sense" implies that the subject is so easy to understand that you would have to be a complete moron or a child not to understand it.

The economical system is so unbelievably complex that even I, a master of fag packet economics, don't have a fucking clue how to fix the problem.

It is common sense, though. And it most definitely is not complex economics.

If you can't understand those simple points, you might as well give up now.

Fair do's to someone who loses their job and in between finding another one gets help from the system but anyone who is quite content to sit around on their arses and take take take when they could be working for a living is scum in my book.

You would rather spent time doing something you dislike than get if for free?

They shouldn't get ANYTHING for free. Why not make them do community service, clean the streets or something like that. Absolute BONKERS!!

Then what do you do with the people the council currently employ to sweep the streets?

The welfare system needs a radical root and branch reform, of that there is no doubt in my mind, but the time to do it is in time of boom, not now when the country is on its knees and there are many many people that are looking for work but cant find any.
One way to help change things would be to start building affordable social housing on brown field sites, employing brickies, labourers, plasterers sparks, plumbers, roofies etc this would enable these firms to train apprentices. These houses could then become the property of the local housing association or council, the rent from those that are in employment would then be used to build more houses, and maintenence of those built, the housing benefit from those on Benefits would be ploughed back into the public purse instead of some private landlords back pocket.
Get poeple working again, earning a wage, spending it in their local shops, cafes, pubs etc, these shops pubs etc then need to employ more people, helping more come off benefit and earning a wage, stopping the current downward cycle and helping us recover the economy.
Some will say we cant afford to do this, i say we cant afford another lost generation.

I agree. We need more social housing.

I would do almost any job under the sun rather than sit at home doing fuck all. If i couldn't get a job doing anything which i reckon is technically impossible as there is always an opportunity then i would go and seek work elsewhere. Hate seeing chav families living almost as well as i do for nothing but at least i have some sense of self worth while these vile pigs are pointless organisms in this world. Everything in the world has a purpose oother than them, they are a drain on society and the worse thing is they breed to get more money

Tin Hat on

 

[malg]

Some of you will like this one.

One of my extended family is approx 50 years old and hasn't worked for over 25 years (probably longer). He lived in flats near Hyde Road, and obviously being on benefits didn't pay for much. He was told he had to move as the council were either selling them on or renovating them (can't remember which) and was given approx £4.5k to move to another council flat, no more than 2 miles away. This was earlier this year.

He has now been told that the flat he has moved into is going the same way as the first, and he is being given alternative (free) housing. However, he's getting another £4.5k to move.

That's £9,000 to move twice inside a year from free accommodation to free accommodation. He doesn't have a family, so it's just him moving.

Quality work if you can get it......

 

[BimboBob]

Fair do's to someone who loses their job and in between finding another one gets help from the system but anyone who is quite content to sit around on their arses and take take take when they could be working for a living is scum in my book.

You would rather spent time doing something you dislike than get if for free?

As far as earnings goes i would.

 

[baldmosher]

Whilst it was wrong to suggest the price of gold always goes up it is equally wrong to assume the price would plummet given the spot gold market is highly liquid and the price impact ought to be fairly limiting assuming the seller wasn't a complete moron.

Any country needing to sell gold because of a crisis would be selling tons not ounces.

Absolutely it will be a lot of gold, but every single day ~800 metric tonnes of physical gold changes hands therefore selling it in daily clips of ~5 mt for a period of time shouldn't have a significant impact on the price and you achieve an average price rather than a single price that is prone to spikes/troughs.

DLBH, in case it escaped your attention my point was that fag packet economics is meant to be utter bollocks. Making a swift, brief point that barely touches on a thoroughly complex problem is fag packet economics. Arguing against that point by expanding the argument to include things on other fag packets that I entirely avoided mentioning seriously undermines the effectiveness of your rebuttal.

Notwithstanding, my point about gold was simple. That as long as there's a shitload of it in the Federal Reserve, the price on the open market remains high, and those countries can claim that they have £Xbn in gold bullion to act as a guarantee for their debt, and can sell off a bit to raise capital if they can't borrow enough. Whatever you wish to say about the existence of money as debt, the fact remains that gold is a very valuable and tangible raw material / commodity and its value, whilst variable, can be seen by anyone who looks at it. A load of numbers on a computer screen doesn't have the same effect. When all the money in the world is gone, the gold (and oil) will still be there. It'll just get rarer and rarer and divvied out amongst the bankers until the point at which everyone decides that amassing gold is a bit of a shit idea as it's virtually useless for any purpose other than to make unreactive electrical contacts and since we don't have the means to produce enough electricity any more, that's gone out of the window. (This paragraph was written on the side of a box of 200 Regal bought in Singapore for £6. I'm selling them for £5 a pack)

 

[Fame Monster]

No it isn't. "Common sense" implies that the subject is so easy to understand that you would have to be a complete moron or a child not to understand it.

The economical system is so unbelievably complex that even I, a master of fag packet economics, don't have a fucking clue how to fix the problem.

It is common sense, though. And it most definitely is not complex economics.

If you can't understand those simple points, you might as well give up now.

Fair do's to someone who loses their job and in between finding another one gets help from the system but anyone who is quite content to sit around on their arses and take take take when they could be working for a living is scum in my book.

You would rather spent time doing something you dislike than get if for free?

Then what do you do with the people the council currently employ to sweep the streets?

The welfare system needs a radical root and branch reform, of that there is no doubt in my mind, but the time to do it is in time of boom, not now when the country is on its knees and there are many many people that are looking for work but cant find any.
One way to help change things would be to start building affordable social housing on brown field sites, employing brickies, labourers, plasterers sparks, plumbers, roofies etc this would enable these firms to train apprentices. These houses could then become the property of the local housing association or council, the rent from those that are in employment would then be used to build more houses, and maintenence of those built, the housing benefit from those on Benefits would be ploughed back into the public purse instead of some private landlords back pocket.
Get poeple working again, earning a wage, spending it in their local shops, cafes, pubs etc, these shops pubs etc then need to employ more people, helping more come off benefit and earning a wage, stopping the current downward cycle and helping us recover the economy.
Some will say we cant afford to do this, i say we cant afford another lost generation.

I agree. We need more social housing.

I would do almost any job under the sun rather than sit at home doing fuck all. If i couldn't get a job doing anything which i reckon is technically impossible as there is always an opportunity then i would go and seek work elsewhere. Hate seeing chav families living almost as well as i do for nothing but at least i have some sense of self worth while these vile pigs are pointless organisms in this world. Everything in the world has a purpose oother than them, they are a drain on society and the worse thing is they breed to get more money

Tin Hat on

Self-worth?

You're saying you'd rather be doing what someone else tells you to do than decide for yourself in your own free-time.

That's similar to the time you said the Law is always right.

And as I said then, I find that utterly depressing.

If there's one thing I hate about people, it's that they don't think or decide for themselves.

You live your life the way you want to live it and only then will you be able to have any self-worth. As it stands now, you might think you have self-worth but that's only because you've swallowed someone else's lie that working gives you self-worth.