Bernardo Silva

[chaddblue]

It’s certainly the correct approach. As Jack Gaughan and Paul Hirst have said, we are willing to allow him to leave if any club come up with a minimum of 80 million pounds.

and if we get a replacement in first which to me seems more unlikely than a club stumping up the fee

 

[nmc]

I'd probably stop watching football if i would be forced to see Bernardo in a Chelsea shirt.

Be like the rest of us and go back to supporting Chelsea !

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Be like the rest of us and go back to supporting Chelsea !

Never go back, Newcastle next...

 

[imrebanana]

A player who is open to a Barca move for family reasons but hasn't put in a transfer request and continues to give his all for the club and will knuckle down if no move comes seems like the sort of player that most clubs would give their right arm for.
I expect all professional footballers to want to move on, try something different, experience new surroundings after a certain time at a club. Prove themselves elsewhere. Is it his time? Probably not given their financial situation but it might be next season. Or the season after that.

If that comes to fruition then he leaves with my blessing. A player who has been a fantastic servant to this club. A player who has wound up opposition fans. A player who has given it all and won loads of trophies. For the club.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking idiot.

Top post. I’m sure you speak for the majority of us.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

A player who is open to a Barca move for family reasons but hasn't put in a transfer request and continues to give his all for the club and will knuckle down if no move comes seems like the sort of player that most clubs would give their right arm for.
I expect all professional footballers to want to move on, try something different, experience new surroundings after a certain time at a club. Prove themselves elsewhere. Is it his time? Probably not given their financial situation but it might be next season. Or the season after that.

If that comes to fruition then he leaves with my blessing. A player who has been a fantastic servant to this club. A player who has wound up opposition fans. A player who has given it all and won loads of trophies. For the club.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking idiot.

Well said.

He's not had the easiest time wile he has been here (although that has to be relative to a top professional footballer). I can imagine he wants to put some distance between himself and Mendy for a start.

But on and off the field he never puts a foot wrong. Wile for us it seems crazy to want to go to Barca - none of us are Portuguese and have lived through what he has.

 

[manimanc]

A player who is open to a Barca move for family reasons but hasn't put in a transfer request and continues to give his all for the club and will knuckle down if no move comes seems like the sort of player that most clubs would give their right arm for.
I expect all professional footballers to want to move on, try something different, experience new surroundings after a certain time at a club. Prove themselves elsewhere. Is it his time? Probably not given their financial situation but it might be next season. Or the season after that.

If that comes to fruition then he leaves with my blessing. A player who has been a fantastic servant to this club. A player who has wound up opposition fans. A player who has given it all and won loads of trophies. For the club.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking idiot.

Great Post, brilliantly put.

 

[1Basti]

Barca only needs around €20-25m (first installment) to reach an agreement with City. Everything depends on FDJ.

 

[Blue Smarties]

Barca only needs around €20-25m (first installment) to reach an agreement with City. Everything depends on FDJ.

Fucking hell, you’re an economic genius. Why haven’t I thought of this before. I’m off to buy a Lamborghini with a £20 down payment. They’ll have my word I can afford the rest in instalments.

 

[blueparrot]

Barca only needs around €20-25m (first installment) to reach an agreement with City. Everything depends on FDJ.

Its not all they need is it, they need to free up enough money to register all their other players and then Bernardos wages. They also need us to agree a deal. In 2 weeks , unlikely I think.

 

[Ghostofmerlin]

If they need to free up 144 million, they are in deep. Looking at the figures I've seen regarding their salary output, Busquets and Pique are going to either have to give up a giant chunk of their salaries AND de Jong will have to leave or they are going to have a tough time freeing up that much money. All of this depends on the funky calculus that La Liga uses to make these decisions, though.

 

[eastmanc]

A player who is open to a Barca move for family reasons but hasn't put in a transfer request and continues to give his all for the club and will knuckle down if no move comes seems like the sort of player that most clubs would give their right arm for.
I expect all professional footballers to want to move on, try something different, experience new surroundings after a certain time at a club. Prove themselves elsewhere. Is it his time? Probably not given their financial situation but it might be next season. Or the season after that.

If that comes to fruition then he leaves with my blessing. A player who has been a fantastic servant to this club. A player who has wound up opposition fans. A player who has given it all and won loads of trophies. For the club.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking idiot.

Standing ovation for that my blue friend.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

Barca only needs around €20-25m (first installment) to reach an agreement with City. Everything depends on FDJ.

Talk about oversimplifying a hugely complex financial transaction!

It’s a little more nuanced than that mate, particularly with an organisation as clearly in the financial shit as Barca.

Think more of the deal Leeds struck for Raphinha - yes there will need to be a chunk up front, as you say, but there will also need to be clear evidence of their capacity to pay across the structure of the deal - so when each instalment is due, they can demonstrate the money will be there. And if not - clear penalties written into the contract for non-payment at each stage.

This isn’t as simple as saying - we’ve got £25m, let’s do a deal for £80m and worry about the rest later.

You’re right that it all depends on de Jong though - providing they can flog him to Chelsea asap, I’d imagine a deal will get done.

 

[1Basti]

Talk about oversimplifying a hugely complex financial transaction!

It’s a little more nuanced than that mate, particularly with an organisation as clearly in the financial shit as Barca.

Think more of the deal Leeds struck for Raphinha - yes there will need to be a chunk up front, as you say, but there will also need to be clear evidence of their capacity to pay across the structure of the deal - so when each instalment is due, they can demonstrate the money will be there. And if not - clear penalties written into the contract for non-payment at each stage.

This isn’t as simple as saying - we’ve got £25m, let’s do a deal for £80m and worry about the rest later.

You’re right that it all depends on de Jong though - providing they can flog him to Chelsea asap, I’d imagine a deal will get done.

We are not Leeds and we have a good relationship with Barca. In the worst case we can sell the outstanding money (like Liverpool did with Coutinho, factoring) to Goldman Sachs which i believe are their biggest creditor. Barca won`t get broke and they can pay the future installments.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

We are not Leeds and we have a good relationship with Barca. In the worst case we can sell the outstanding money (like Liverpool did with Coutinho, factoring) to Goldman Sachs which i believe are their biggest creditor. Barca won`t get broke and they can pay the future installments.

Yes, but they’ll have to be able to demonstrate that to us, so it’s not as simple as saying ‘we’ve got £25m, let’s do a deal’

Barca are financially fucked - I’d agree they won’t go bust. The banks don’t let them. But given their precarious situation, this contract will be complicated and will require evidence of funds at each installation stage way beyond just the initial £25m.

We simply won’t be entering into this deal thinking ‘fuck it, if it doesn’t turn out as we hoped we’ll flog the debt to GS’ - the deal will require a structure similar to the one Leeds have struck.

Whether we’ve got a better relationship is irrelevant. We’re not going to throw all financial due diligence on the deal to the wind because Txiki, Omar and Ferran used to work for them.

They’re going to need to show us they've got access to a lot more than £25m to get this done.

 

[PragueBlue]

A player who is open to a Barca move for family reasons but hasn't put in a transfer request and continues to give his all for the club and will knuckle down if no move comes seems like the sort of player that most clubs would give their right arm for.
I expect all professional footballers to want to move on, try something different, experience new surroundings after a certain time at a club. Prove themselves elsewhere. Is it his time? Probably not given their financial situation but it might be next season. Or the season after that.

If that comes to fruition then he leaves with my blessing. A player who has been a fantastic servant to this club. A player who has wound up opposition fans. A player who has given it all and won loads of trophies. For the club.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking idiot.

Spot on.

 

[paulchapo]

We're not a fucking charity. Bernardo had three years left on his contract. Pay what he's worth or fuck off simple as.

 

[SJT]

so the great idea is...We sell our best, or one of our best players - one the cheap and drip to Barca, and at the same time, facilitate the move to the swamp for FDJ - and thats ok? We should make him stay and he can cry on the bench.

 

[oakiecokie]

so the great idea is...We sell our best, or one of our best players - one the cheap and drip to Barca, and at the same time, facilitate the move to the swamp for FDJ - and thats ok? We should make him stay and he can cry on the bench.

Then you don`t know fuck all about the relationship Bernie and the Club have !! He has made it perfectly clear that if things don`t work out then he`ll still give 100% and you know what, I believe the guy, so just fuck off with your nonsense "let him cry on the bench".

 

[super_city_si]

so the great idea is...We sell our best, or one of our best players - one the cheap and drip to Barca, and at the same time, facilitate the move to the swamp for FDJ - and thats ok? We should make him stay and he can cry on the bench.

He wont be crying on the bench. He’ll be busting his gut doing his best in the first team like he always does. You do him a disservice. Cant believe anyone would question bernardos character or integrity.

 

[Zenmanc]

so the great idea is...We sell our best, or one of our best players - one the cheap and drip to Barca, and at the same time, facilitate the move to the swamp for FDJ - and thats ok? We should make him stay and he can cry on the bench.

Clear you have never followed Bernie a minute he's been here.