Biggest Israeli Land Grab For 30 years

[mancityvstoke]

Oh right, glad you've cleared that up. I'll just fuck off then shall I? Sorry Ducado, I don't want to offend, but you're talking shite now. I've been more than reasonable in all my posts on this subject. Last time I checked, this was an internet forum for people to debate any and all matters that they wish. A debate, by definition, is the act of engagement in discussion between parties with differing viewpoints with the aim of coming to a more rounded and objective conclusion.

If this isn't what Bluemoon is about, please send me the memo containing the prescribed and mod-authorised opinions that I should be communicating.

Debating with people involved in the thread is one thing, goading people who haven't posted in it is quite another.

I'm not goading anyone Ric. I'd just like a response from any one of the number of posters who have very vociferously expounded the erroneous assertion that Israel acts only in self defence.

You are definitely goading mate

 

[mcmanus]

I'm not too worried by Israel's decision to annex 1.5 square miles of land.

Faced with a vast area of the middle east nearly 300 times its own size and full of people who are ideologically crazed in their hatred of Israel, it is inevitable that the Israeli government will need to make constant and minor adjustments to borders and strategy in the interests of national security.

That 1.5 square miles will now join the rest of Israel, the only state in the middle east with free speech, free elections, a free press, freedom of religion and equality for women, gays and other groups which are horribly repressed in the rest of the region.

That is something to celebrate.

I bet the owner of the dairy factory who lost his livelihood and possibly his house isn't celebrating.

 

[BigOscar]

I'm not too worried by Israel's decision to annex 1.5 square miles of land.

Faced with a vast area of the middle east nearly 300 times its own size and full of people who are ideologically crazed in their hatred of Israel, it is inevitable that the Israeli government will need to make constant and minor adjustments to borders and strategy in the interests of national security.

That 1.5 square miles will now join the rest of Israel, the only state in the middle east with free speech, free elections, a free press, freedom of religion and equality for women, gays and other groups which are horribly repressed in the rest of the region.

That is something to celebrate.

I bet the owner of the dairy factory who lost his livelihood and possibly his house isn't celebrating.

It's a lovely arguament for why Israel should be allowed to annex the entire middle east though, then we can all celebrate?

 

[aguero93:20]

I'm not too worried by Israel's decision to annex 1.5 square miles of land.

Faced with a vast area of the middle east nearly 300 times its own size and full of people who are ideologically crazed in their hatred of Israel, it is inevitable that the Israeli government will need to make constant and minor adjustments to borders and strategy in the interests of national security.

That 1.5 square miles will now join the rest of Israel, the only state in the middle east with free speech, free elections, a free press, freedom of religion and equality for women, gays and other groups which are horribly repressed in the rest of the region.

That is something to celebrate.

Lebensraum (German for "habitat" or literally "living space") was an important component of Nazi ideology in Germany. The Nazis supported territorial expansionism to gain Lebensraum as being a law of nature for all healthy and vigorous peoples of superior races to displace people of inferior races; especially if the people of a superior race were facing overpopulation in their given territories. The German Nazi Party claimed that Germany inevitably needed to territorially expand because it was facing an overpopulation crisis within its Treaty of Versailles-designed boundaries that Adolf Hitler described: "We are overpopulated and cannot feed ourselves from our own resources". Thus expansion was justified as an inevitable necessity for Germany to pursue in order to end the country's overpopulation within existing confined territory, and provide resources necessary to its people's well-being. The idea of a Germanic people without sufficient space dates back to long before Adolf Hitler brought it to prominence.

It was the stated policy of the Nazis to kill, deport, or enslave the Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, and other Slavic populations, whom they considered inferior, and to repopulate the land with Germanic people.The entire urban population was to be exterminated by starvation, thus creating an agricultural surplus to feed Germany and allowing their replacement by a German upper class. The policy of Lebensraum implicitly assumed the superiority of Germans as members of an Aryan master race who by virtue of their superiority had the right to displace people deemed to be part of inferior races.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

I'm not too worried by Israel's decision to annex 1.5 square miles of land.

No, you wouldn't do, because you don't fucking live there, so it won't be your families house that gets bulldozed, and the land that they have farmed for generations stolen.
But fortunately some of us can empathise with those who do.

 

[No6]

I'm not too worried by Israel's decision to annex 1.5 square miles of land.

Faced with a vast area of the middle east nearly 300 times its own size and full of people who are ideologically crazed in their hatred of Israel, it is inevitable that the Israeli government will need to make constant and minor adjustments to borders and strategy in the interests of national security.

That 1.5 square miles will now join the rest of Israel, the only state in the middle east with free speech, free elections, a free press, freedom of religion and equality for women, gays and other groups which are horribly repressed in the rest of the region.

That is something to celebrate.

I bet the owner of the dairy factory who lost his livelihood and possibly his house isn't celebrating.

Erm, they give all this to Palestinian citizens do they?

Also, have a look into the mass demonstrations against African immigrants, and the violent attacks on them and their property. Maybe also read about what happened to a couple (one Arab, one Jewish) who dared to marry last week. Real hallmarks of a tolerant society right there.

You seem to have fallen for the illusory fairytale version of Israeli life. Reality and facts don't quite fit though.

 

[waterloo blue]

I'm not too worried by Israel's decision to annex 1.5 square miles of land.

Faced with a vast area of the middle east nearly 300 times its own size and full of people who are ideologically crazed in their hatred of Israel, it is inevitable that the Israeli government will need to make constant and minor adjustments to borders and strategy in the interests of national security.

That 1.5 square miles will now join the rest of Israel, the only state in the middle east with free speech, free elections, a free press, freedom of religion and equality for women, gays and other groups which are horribly repressed in the rest of the region.

That is something to celebrate.

I'll bet you could have saved time and energy,by simply copy and pasting this from the Mail.

 

[rick773]

That 1.5 square miles will now join the rest of Israel, the only state in the middle east with free speech, free elections, a free press, freedom of religion and equality for women, gays and other groups which are horribly repressed in the rest of the region.

That is something to celebrate.

Yeah I mean if their treatment of Jews that are a bit too brown is anything to go off Israel is a Mecca of equality and freedom.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I'm not too worried by Israel's decision to annex 1.5 square miles of land.

No, you wouldn't do, because you don't fucking live there, so it won't be your families house that gets bulldozed, and the land that they have farmed for generations stolen.
But fortunately some of us can empathise with those who do.

Exactly
I said it earlier in the thread why the fuck are they untouchable & do as they please.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Debate on here won't change people’s minds, it rarely does some people can't even agree on the relative merits of one manager or the other or even is it a muffin or a barm and you think that you can change people’s minds over something as emotive as the Middle East? However that’s not saying you should not debate, just don’t be under any illusions that it will get you anywhere or it will change peoples minds

Oh right, glad you've cleared that up. I'll just fuck off then shall I? Sorry Ducado, I don't want to offend, but you're talking shite now. I've been more than reasonable in all my posts on this subject. Last time I checked, this was an internet forum for people to debate any and all matters that they wish. A debate, by definition, is the act of engagement in discussion between parties with differing viewpoints with the aim of coming to a more rounded and objective conclusion.

If this isn't what Bluemoon is about, please send me the memo containing the prescribed and mod-authorised opinions that I should be communicating.

Debating with people involved in the thread is one thing, goading people who haven't posted in it is quite another.

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