Bloody Sunday: Soldier F faces murder charges

[Shadz69]

#irishlivesmatter

 

[Ban-jani]

Depends what you class as unarmed

The same as what the police do.

 

[kinkyblue]

The same as what the police do.

Then a lot of the crowd were armed

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Dya know whats great craic?

Being the son of a member of the British army in Belfast and repeatedly having loaded guns pointed at you by laughing british army soldiers as you walk to PRIMARY SCHOOL.

:-|

Do you know what isn't such a great craic?
Hearing from your daughter, who, at 12 years old, was laughing and giggling with her mates next to the bin
at McDonald's in Warrington, 15 minutes before it exploded, ending the lives of a young lad and a baby.

 

[Ban-jani]

Then a lot of the crowd were armed

Have you got any evidence for this as the mainstream opinion says they weren’t.

 

[The blue phantom]

Have you got any evidence for this as the mainstream opinion says they weren’t.

He obviously knows more than the Saville inquiry, and to think these soldiers are getting defended.


Why did the soldiers open fire?

• "None of the casualties shot by soldiers of Support Company was armed with a firearm (with the probable exception of Gerald Donaghey, but he was not a threat at the time). None was posing any threat of causing death or serious injury. In no case was any warning given before soldiers opened fire," the report said.

• Evidence from soldiers to the inquiry that they had fired after coming under attack was rejected. "We have concluded that none of them fired in response to attacks or threatened attacks by nail or petrol bombers. No one threw or threatened to throw a nail or petrol bomb at the soldiers on Bloody Sunday."

• The credibility of the accounts given by the soldiers was "materially undermined" because all soldiers bar one who were responsible for the casualties "insisted that they had shot at gunmen or bombers, which they had not". Saville said: "Many of these soldiers have knowingly put forward false accounts in order to seek to justify their firing".

The role of the state

• Saville rejected the contention that the state had authorised the troops to use "unwarranted lethal force" or sanctioned them "with reckless disregard as to whether such force was used".

 

[kinkyblue]

Have you got any evidence for this as the mainstream opinion says they weren’t.

Have you ever been on the end of a mob throwing bricks, bottles and petrol bombs? Believe me you feel your life is in danger, that is being armed and then you hear shots. What would you have done?
I have been in this situation and it’s such a fine line between panic and opening fire or standing firm and taking all that crap.
We had a lot more training than the lads involved, they weren’t prepared for what happened and were the wrong troops to be sent to the province at the time. It’s the commanders that sent them there that should be prosecuted.
Move forward a few years and think of David Howes and Derek woods, they were armed but didn’t open fire on the crowd! An unarmed crowd and look what happened, the IRA excuse for the execution! We though we were being attacked again like the mill town cemetery attack! Funny how they think that was ok!

 

[The blue phantom]

Have you ever been on the end of a mob throwing bricks, bottles and petrol bombs? Believe me you feel your life is in danger, that is being armed and then you hear shots. What would you have done?

But none of that took place, you need to read up on exactly what happened that day instead of making things up.

You're trying to defend the undefenable.

 

[Ban-jani]

Have you ever been on the end of a mob throwing bricks, bottles and petrol bombs? Believe me you feel your life is in danger, that is being armed and then you hear shots. What would you have done?
I have been in this situation and it’s such a fine line between panic and opening fire or standing firm and taking all that crap.
We had a lot more training than the lads involved, they weren’t prepared for what happened and were the wrong troops to be sent to the province at the time. It’s the commanders that sent them there that should be prosecuted.
Move forward a few years and think of David Howes and Derek woods, they were armed but didn’t open fire on the crowd! An unarmed crowd and look what happened, the IRA excuse for the execution! We though we were being attacked again like the mill town cemetery attack! Funny how they think that was ok!

You’re giving a hypothetical situation as evidence for something that actually happened.

 

[kinkyblue]

But none of that took place, you need to read up on exactly what happened that day instead of making things up.

You're trying to defend the undefenable.

Plenty of film footage shows otherwise