Blue Moon Podcast Interviews Danny Wilson

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

So what!

Yes, the bloke might be available and be a nice bloke and he might be easy to get hold of.

But what does that really do?

The proof of the pudding is in the eating and whilst it probably isn't his decision, he is the bloke charged with responsibility for bullshitting people when it comes to the fans. And the club has just shit all over us.

Nice bloke, he bought me a drink, he called my mobile, he answered my question, blah, blah.

Cut the rhetoric, I heard all the same shite about Garry Cook 12 months ago from the star struck and the easily led.

I'm not interested in their personality, good or bad, I'm interested in what they do.

Does Danny Wilson spinning a line and phoning people up do anything at all to help those who have been shit on?

I doubt it.

-- Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:25 pm --



Genuine question, seriously, no sarcasm involved at all.

Has he informed you of anything that helps those people who have been treated terribly in this affair?

Or was it just a bit of cheap PR from a club that, when it comes to the fans, has been just talking the talk for the last twelve months?

Equally though, Danny Wilson is not the one who's come up with the new season ticket pricing. I presume those decisions were made at a higher level so you can't really hold him responsible, and to vilify him for it is a bit unfair.

I don't wish to vilify him. That's why I stated it probably isn't decision (well, it definitely won't be, I imagine).

However, I am quite happy to vilify spin and cheap PR and he, with the phone calls and the political answers and racheted up rhetoric about how valued the fans are that we have seen over the past 12 months, is part of that.

I can't stand spin in any form of life. Politics, sport, relationships, whatever. And with the obvious, intentional focus on political moves over the past year (phone calls from staff to fans, buying people drinks, talking the cheap talk about fans that goes down well, inviting certain vocal fans to nice little events and various other stuff) it could be suspected that an intentional PR/spin campaign has been going on.

Perhaps that it fine in itself, depending on matters that actually result alongside it.

But, the single most important issue to fans, dwarfing absolutely everything else, is ticketing. And all the talk, phone calls, drinks, invites and everything else pales into insignificance next to that imo. They are side issues. Tickets are the central issue to fans. Perhaps the only overwhelming issue.

So, I am not vilifying him as an individual. But I will definitely criticise what, in light of the (seemingly intentional) botch of the only issue that has such importance to fans, is a culture of spin and politicing. If they did not implement completely meaningless price increases (in relation to the club's P&L) and shaft people in terms of location, if they dealt with that issue correctly, then I couldn't care less if Danny Wilson never called another fan again, or Garry Cook never glad handed someone in a bar and bought them a drink, or no-one was ever invited to a cosy meeting to discuss side issues like the website or catering. Those issues/things are insignificant next to season tickets

 

[Banned Tosspot]

JMA being a bellend as usual.

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

JMA being a bellend as usual.

Not sure what that is all about and don't remember ever insulting you before.

However, in the interests of fairness, I think we should draw a line under that and leave it there. From what I've observed, you really aren't in a position to get into a debate regarding personal attributes.

I am quite willing to spare the rod and forget the above ever happened.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

JMA being a bellend as usual.

Not sure what that is all about and don't remember ever insulting you before.

However, in the interests of fairness, I think we should draw a line under that and leave it there. From what I've observed, you really aren't in a position to get into a debate regarding personal attributes.

I am quite willing to spare the rod and forget the above ever happened.

I'm not. You've always been rubbishing people who work for the club. Maybe you are John Maddock and you have an 'axe to grind'

What next, Moonbeam has hairy legs and needs to shave them?

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

Try addressing the points raised, Einstein.

(Or just keep imagining what you are reading so it fits in with your simplistic, black and white, labeled view, up to you)

 

[Banned Tosspot]

Try addressing the points raised, Einstein.

(Or just keep imagining what you are reading so it fits in with your simplistic, black and white, labeled view, up to you)

Just sick of your constant negativity towards the club.

Cheer up.

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

Try addressing the points raised, Einstein.

(Or just keep imagining what you are reading so it fits in with your simplistic, black and white, labeled view, up to you)

Just sick of your constant negativity towards the club.

Cheer up.

Three things that I have constantly been negative about on here.

1. A crook buying the club and involving it with non-football matters that tarnished its name whilst taking it close to folding through total mismanagement.

2. Mark Hughes being a divisive person amongst both the fans and everyone at the club, failing to manage correctly and concentrating more on protecting his own reputation than doing what is best for the club.

3. Some dickhead deciding to completely shaft the fans overr this season ticket issue.

Feel free to list any other subjects I've banged on about, cos I can't remember them.

If you want to address any of them and put forward a coherent argument as to why any of them are wrong and they were actually all great news for the club then I will happily concede that I am a miserably bastard next to your happy, shiny self.

Otherwise I'll just have to assume that you are another looking for some sort of internet support group, complete with and can't face any talk of negative issues, even if they are such huge ones as those above.

 

[halpo123]

Just sick of your constant negativity towards the club.

Cheer up.

Three things that I have constantly been negative about on here.

1. A crook buying the club and involving it with non-football matters that tarnished its name whilst taking it close to folding through total mismanagement.

2. Mark Hughes being a divisive person amongst both the fans and everyone at the club, failing to manage correctly and concentrating more on protecting his own reputation than doing what is best for the club.

3. Some dickhead deciding to completely shaft the fans overr this season ticket issue.

Feel free to list any other subjects I've banged on about, cos I can't remember them.

If you want to address any of them and put forward a coherent argument as to why any of them are wrong and they were actually all great news for the club then I will happily concede that I am a miserably bastard next to your happy, shiny self.

Otherwise I'll just have to assume that you are another looking for some sort of internet support group, complete with and can't face any talk of negative issues, even if they are such huge ones as those above.

and you can be arsed writing this boring drivel after yesterdays result? nobodys been shafted ,all you need to do is move seats.
price wise theres no argument .I`ve sat everywhere at maine rd and everywhere at eastlands it makes hardly any difference ,your at the match enjoy it for fuck sake.Some people aren`t happy unless they`re moaning

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

Probably took me less time than it took you to type out your pointless, negative three or four lines of rubbish there.

The difference being that I have a brain capable of separating issues. This means that yesteday's result/performance and my thoughts on it have absolutely nothing to do with the above and are not affected by it.

Now, I understand that you are suggesting that this ability is beyond your comprehension and mental powers. But if so, I have to ask how you managed to type out the above negative sentiments without going into a complete mental breakdown as it conflicted with the pleasure of the win.

FFS, top class five year old reasoning - "we won so everything must be brilliant, even if it is shit and anyone who says otherwise is mental, even if that issue is totally unrelated to the win."

Another Einstein joins the thread.

(And yes, that is a negative post)

 

[Banned Tosspot]

Just sick of your constant negativity towards the club.

Cheer up.

Three things that I have constantly been negative about on here.

1. A crook buying the club and involving it with non-football matters that tarnished its name whilst taking it close to folding through total mismanagement.

2. Mark Hughes being a divisive person amongst both the fans and everyone at the club, failing to manage correctly and concentrating more on protecting his own reputation than doing what is best for the club.

3. Some dickhead deciding to completely shaft the fans overr this season ticket issue.

Feel free to list any other subjects I've banged on about, cos I can't remember them.

If you want to address any of them and put forward a coherent argument as to why any of them are wrong and they were actually all great news for the club then I will happily concede that I am a miserably bastard next to your happy, shiny self.

Otherwise I'll just have to assume that you are another looking for some sort of internet support group, complete with and can't face any talk of negative issues, even if they are such huge ones as those above.

Being patronising is the first sign of defeat.

People like you are a cancer within our club, stay miserable, it fucking suits you.