Blue Moon Top 100 Bands Artists - Full List of Artists (pg 287)

[urban genie]

Well, I’ve never agreed with this statement, nor, I’d guess, would many musicians, and certainly relatively few studiers of music, and zero music critics.

Moreover, describing a band as “shite” and the quality of them “laughable” and not explaining why you think so damages the credibility of your viewpoint.

And again this is coming from a guy who put FF on his top 15 list and not Nirvana. But I can explain why I did, and also why Nirvana is not shite, subjectively nor objectively.

Oh I don't think music is purely subjective, it is objective too as with all forms of art and self espression, but you need both for any art from like painting, music, sculpture, literary work etc to grow and evolve

However individual tastes are subjective and formed through many ways and experiences.
One mans favourite classical, rock or pop music could be another persons hell in musical form and both could see the others aa objectively terrible music.

As for my one word analysis of nirvana, well they I don't like wasting time writing long post breaking down everything except on the politics forum where such is a necessity imho, for other subject say what you think people in what way you deem fit can either agree or disagree and you owe no one an explination

But as it is I will waffle for a bit, Nirvana ain't alone in my short and sweet answer, music speaks to each person and raises an emotional response, I never felt anything listening to nirvana but simple a relection that what I heard raised no feeling but, well simply no feeling, it did not make want to tap along or feel the music, didn't make me emotioanl either in a good or sad way, I feel nothing listening to nirvana but the urge to switch it off, and it isn't jus them, the whole sub genre did nowt for me, soundgarden, alice in chains, pearl jam, nope to me all we as I put it shite.
Not that I am saying similar american alt rock styles don't emotioanlly charge me, I have been a Pixies fan from their early stuff and seen them live several times, bands like the stone temple pilots, Dinosaur Jr, and Pavememt have been firm favourites of mine, throw in the Foos who are excellent and Queens of the Stone age and even the eagles of death metal (one of the best gigs I went to pre bataclan) though Hughes and Hommes get more off putting on a personal level with every whack job statement they make.

Also anyone has a right to find any opinion laughable, and people find that statement equally laughable in turn


I may make similar very straight to my point opinions and statements on the next artist drops, if such are not to your tates then please discard my opinion as mine really is not an important one anyway :-)

 

[Coatigan]

Nirvana who were shite above the foo fighters is laughable

Anyone thinking that is laughable.

Lets all laugh at each other

 

[Coatigan]

I voted for the Foos but not Nirvana because the Foos have been far more prolific and have done some great stuff. But Nirvana put out arguably the most important record of the last 30 years. It's hard to gainsay that IMO.

Your last paragraph says it all. Even that one record alone is worh more to music as a whole than everything the foos have done.

I like the foos, a bunch of great songs, even a couple of good albums, to pick out of a mass of ok stuff.

But if you had to erase one from history, which one would be missed most. Wouldn't be the foos, nobody can argue that.

Particularly lately, they have become just a radio friendly generic bearded pop band with wrist bands. The ultra safe act choice for people who like to say they like the rock music. I always look forward to their new albums, to find myself bitterly disappointed. Then stick on their old stuff for a bit. Then I put on Nirvana.

 

[Dr Jacoby]

Haha fuckin hell made 16 secs.

Story of my life

 

[Coatigan]

Oh I don't think music is purely subjective, it is objective too as with all forms of art and self espression, but you need both for any art from like painting, music, sculpture, literary work etc to grow and evolve

However individual tastes are subjective and formed through many ways and experiences.
One mans favourite classical, rock or pop music could be another persons hell in musical form and both could see the others aa objectively terrible music.

As for my one word analysis of nirvana, well they I don't like wasting time writing long post breaking down everything except on the politics forum where such is a necessity imho, for other subject say what you think people in what way you deem fit can either agree or disagree and you owe no one an explination

But as it is I will waffle for a bit, Nirvana ain't alone in my short and sweet answer, music speaks to each person and raises an emotional response, I never felt anything listening to nirvana but simple a relection that what I heard raised no feeling but, well simply no feeling, it did not make want to tap along or feel the music, didn't make me emotioanl either in a good or sad way, I feel nothing listening to nirvana but the urge to switch it off, and it isn't jus them, the whole sub genre did nowt for me, soundgarden, alice in chains, pearl jam, nope to me all we as I put it shite.
Not that I am saying similar alt rock styles don't emotioanlly charge me, I have been a Pixies fan from their early stuff and seen them live several times, bands like the stone temple pilots, Dinosaur Jr, and Pavememt have been firm favourites of mine, throw in the Foos who are excellent and Queens of the Stone age and even the eagles of death metal (one of the best gigs I went to pre bataclan) though Hughes and Hommes get more off putting on a personal level with every whack job statement they make.

Also anyone has a right to find any opinion laughable, and people find that statement equally laughable in turn


I may make similar very straight to my point opinions and statements on the next artist drops, if such are not to your tates then please discard my opinion as mine really is not an important one anyway :-)

That was an interesting read, and unlike your first post, not really anything anyone can disagree with.

I Would say, based on the above, you might be comparing the wrong bands against each other then. Your issue seems to be of style/genre, and foos, although hthey have grohl as a link, are just not a grunge band.

EDIT, expanding a bit.

I like the other grohl-touched bands you mention as well, probably more than the foos. Again, wouldn't compare them to nirvana.

Maybe my issue with foos is the the sheer amount of filler. Which I feel about a lot of bands I like tbf. Nirvana never got the chance to not stand the test of multiple releases, which most bands struggle with.

Or perhaps we as listeners msybe stuggle with, who knows.

 

[urban genie]

That was an interesting read, and unlike your first post, not really anything anyone can disagree with.

I Would say, based on the above, you might be comparing the wrong bands against each other then. Your issue seems to be of style/genre, and foos, although hthey have grohl as a link, are just not a grunge band.

I would say their first LP still had a twinge of grunge about it still as did enough space, but the Foos evolved away from that as time went on, and as you have just posted have come full circle to rock/pop elite and mainstream friendly.

My initial laughable comment was more that personally I think nirvarna, if the events hadn't happened would have fizzled out rather than evolve as with most of those bands and nevermind would not be seen as this seminal moment, but a footnote in a musical decade and just another personal classic album to people

I may be wrong but I just didn't and still don't like it or most of what those bands produced, wasn't my thing

I do think nirvana have been put in the "cannot criticise" or you are deemed a wrong un if you say you don't like them bracket that people like to put the the beatles, zeplin, bowie etc in.


Anyway not the first time my vie on here has been roundly dismissed, many years ago in a movie discussion thread I said the breakfast club was wank and got leathered for it ;-)

 

[Coatigan]

I would say their first LP still had a twinge of grunge about it still as did enough space, but the Foos evolved away from that as time went on, and as you have just posted have come full circle to rock/pop elite and mainstream friendly.

My initial laughable comment was more that personally I think nirvarna, if the evemt hadn't happened wpupd have fizzled out rather than evolve as with most of those bands and nevermind would not be seen as this seminal moment, but a footnote in a musical decade and just another personal classic album to people

I may be wrong but I just didn't and still don't like it or most of what those bands produced, wasn't my thing

I do think nirvana have been put in the "cannot criticise" or you are deemed a wrong un if you say you don't like them bracket that people like to put the the beatles, zeplin, bowie etc in.


Anyway not the forst time my vie on here has been roundly dismissed, many years ago in a movie discussion thread I said the breakfast club was wank and got leathered for it ;-)

I agree with all that.

I love Nirvana, loved listening to it when it came out, still do. But you are right, I have questioned myself how they would have fared over time. And yes, the status that got them has left them a bit 'untouchable'. But I think their contribution of that short burst of awesome also can't be diminished.

What I feel about Foos, i feel about quite a few bands that I really like, some that made my list too. And as much as it hurts me to say it about all of them, I often think to myself, stop releasing yearly guff. Go away for a bit, come back when you have something meaningful to really hit with. I think it is a wider sympton of the music industry in fairness.

 

[Coatigan]

Looking at the rest of my list, I would not be surprised if that was me for the rest of what is to come. The most widely popular bands among my list only got up to 5 voters, the less mainstream ones have little chance. One or two well known ones still in there maybe.

 

[RobMCFC]

Positions #44 – #49

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We’ve finally got a bunch of artists who have reached double figures! Here’s all the 10s.

Fleetwood Mac are the UK/US hybrid band I mentioned before the countdown, @Saddleworth2 will be delighted to see that Kate Bush is here along with The Small Faces and 80s icon Prince.

Being from the metropolitan borough of Wigan, The Verve qualify as one of the fifteen (Greater) Manc bands.

Would you believe that at #45, ABBA are the top EU band in the poll? They edged out Kraftwerk and U2 to take the European gold, those other two being the only other EU bands in the top 100.

Videos to follow.

 

[RobMCFC]

44. Fleetwood Mac



45. ABBA



46. Kate Bush