bnp have an elected mep

Daviesmcfc - "That is one of the most racist things I have ever read.
The figures are NOT blown up, I am Jewish my self and many people I know had their entire families killed by the Nazi's. If anything, it was more than six million. To suggest Jewish people pumped the figure up to get Israel is extremely racist. You should go to Auchwitz, you should see the gas chambers. the confiscated items and the death camps. It would bring a tear to anyone's eye how six million innocent people were killed.

The last bit of your post is the biggest load of sh*t I have ever seen. The wealthy Jews did not help transport the lower class Jews and if they did it was because they were forced to by the Nazi's.

You are a Holocaust denier as there is overwhelming proof that millions of Jewish people were killed."

Buzzer1 ...

Whatever you believe the upper class jewish people did transport the lower class jews to the camps for immunity and probably for certain death. Do not dare call me Racist, as the jewish are the most racist people in the world (NOT all of them). The Rothschild created ADL and b' naibraith (spellcheck) as the habit of branding people, with names to suit their adgenda, i.e Racist, holocaust denier if it does not suit their poxy agenda. And yes Israel was bombed into existance and if you can get your one brain cell round this.. iam not English, Scotish, Jewish, Arobic, Asian, or any other stupid fucking name that you choose to allow yourself to be branded with. I am from this piece of ground on which i stand, which in turn belongs to the universe!

If you would of seen some of my other posts and comments, then you surely will see this. We are just an experiment from the stars, and untill people like you wake up to this minipulation we will always be at logger heads.

The only flag i wrap myself in Comes in the colours blue & white!
 
bluearmy71 said:
That is not what they want
Yes it is what they want.
bluearmy71 said:
this is the problem because they say things that people get all ooo you can't say that things that most of us do think about they get branded a racist party down to the pc brigade that think a black board is racist
Honestly, I don't mean to be flippant, but there's no such thing as 'The PC Brigade' and nobody in their right mind gives a thought to the term 'Black board' and it's supposed racist connotations.
bluearmy71 said:
they want tighter border control
Yes they do, you are correct. but that's not all.
bluearmy71 said:
I don't know how people have this view about them I don't support the BNP but I watch their press conferences like i watch other party's and i don't hear one racist thing in them.
I don't doubt that you have not heard one racist thing in the BNP's press conferences. Former NF Secretary Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP is not an idiot. The National Front were not racist either. At least, they said so in their press conferences.
bluearmy71 said:
They would not and wouldn't want too get rid of all non whites in England
Yeah. They would. They would certainly want to. Absolutely. The BNP are by their own admission "wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples."
bluearmy71 said:
this is the nonsense that gets blown right out of proportion by the media and simple minds brain washed without a view of their own that don't bother finding out just what the BNP are about
it's not nonsense mate. it really really isn't.
bluearmy71 said:
yes they have said some things that have been wrong but i can say that about the other party's aswell.
you've lost me mate. "YES THEY HAVE SAID SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN WRONG". Okay. So, what's your real point here? They're good because some other parties have said some stuff that is wrong? As wrong as what the BNP has said? And even if you give me a quote of Gordon Brown saying he drowns puppies, it doesn't reverse what the BNP have said, say, have done and do.
Again, you either truly believe they are wrong, and you fight them, or you don't actually think it's wrong and you're with them. They are an extreme right party, the reaction is an extreme one, with or against.
The BNP Constitution said:
The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples. It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration
[url=http://www.newstatesman.com/200108060005:3kr37msz]The New Statesman[/url] said:
Griffin was allowed to get away with claiming that the BNP had mellowed and no longer believed in the compulsory deportation of British citizens whose colour he disliked. This is a lie, designed to spin media dolts. Searchlight, the fascist monitoring group, points out that the small print of BNP policy says it believes in first creating an apartheid state which separates races, then encouraging "voluntary repatriation" and then considering "forcible repatriation" if non-whites refuse to be driven from their homes.
[url=http://www.searchlightcymru.org.uk/index.php?page=media_guide:3kr37msz]Searchlight[/url] said:
Read the small print. The BNP claims no longer to be in favour of compulsory repatriation but will offer "non-whites" (regardless of whether they were born in Britain or not) money to return home. However, if you read the finer details of its policy you will see that after those who have chosen to "return" go back, a BNP government will take a decision on the rest. The coded message is that the BNP will then dispatch those as well. Other parts of its programme reveal how it plans to force people out. The BNP states that "native Britons" will be given priority in the job market - the coded message being that "non-whites" will be forced out of jobs and effectively driven out.
 
smeghead64 said:
the reason they got in was people voted for them (im not one of them) so live with it . freedom or speech and all that

the reason they got in is that 75% of the potential voters did not vote, thus lowering they needed to win seats.

i didnt vote and i feel sick to my stomach at myself at the results, as i am partially to blame. this conversation is mainly to remind myself not to make the same mistake ever again. and to bore the pants of everyone. and to repeatedly call Brooklands Blue rude names.
 
buzzer1 said:
Whatever you believe the upper class jewish people did transport the lower class jews to the camps for immunity and probably for certain death. Do not dare call me Racist, as the jewish are the most racist people in the world (NOT all of them). The Rothschild created ADL and b' naibraith (spellcheck) as the habit of branding people, with names to suit their adgenda, i.e Racist, holocaust denier if it does not suit their poxy agenda. And yes Israel was bombed into existance and if you can get your one brain cell round this.. iam not English, Scotish, Jewish, Arobic, Asian, or any other stupid fucking name that you choose to allow yourself to be branded with. I am from this piece of ground on which i stand, which in turn belongs to the universe!

If you would of seen some of my other posts and comments, then you surely will see this. We are just an experiment from the stars, and untill people like you wake up to this minipulation we will always be at logger heads.

The only flag i wrap myself in Comes in the colours blue & white!

I'm not really sure I get your point. The BNP state the holocaust "didn't happen". Now that's quite clearly bollocks.

You, in a previous post, doubted the figures with regards to how many died, suggesting that those figures had been manipulated to meet an agenda the Jews had to gain their own homeland in the Middle East (amongst other nafarious aims).

You then seem to be clinging on to the "fact" that wealthy Jews assisted in the shipping of less well off Jews in return for their freedom/safety as some kind of reason they should be distrusted and hated as a race.

Your final point seems to be that the Jews, once given their own homeland, have been "the most racist people in the World".

Ok, lets look at each point in turn:-

1 - BNP Holocaust Denial No-one, yourself included I'd hope, with any ounce of common sense or intelligence, can deny that the BNP are an extremely racist organisation. Their aims, policies and behaviours are conducted with one thing in mind, turning Britain into a white only state. Their standpoint that the holocaust never happened is, quite simply compete crap.

2 - Death Toll Manipulation. Seriously? You think the actual figure was so much lower than the figure of 6,000,000 to have made a difference? 6,000,000 isn't accurate, there's no way to be 100% accurate, but it's an approximation based on the European Jew population prior to WWII and the population afterwards. If it was 5,000,000 rather than 6,000,000 would that make a difference? Do you really believe that the rest of the World would have said "5,000,000 dead, that's pretty bad, however if you'd had 6,000,000 we'd have resettled you all back in the chosen land"? The arguement simply doesn't hold water. Who came up with the approximate number? Jewish people? Or was it Britain, the USA, France etc? No doubt you'll claim all of those were being manipulated by Jewish nationals too.....

3 - Jewish Collaboration I've no doubt, on some scale, this happened. However, in every society, be it based on nationality, social standing or religious beliefs, there will be some who use their position to keep themselves and their families safe, sometimes with horrific actions. Reverse the roles and say Hitler was killing off Christians, do you really think there wouldn't be similar things happening? If you don't then you're being naive. I'd also suggest that the numbers of people doing this "collaborating" was minimal in the extreme, particularly when compared to the numbers that died.

4 - Current Jewish "Racism All societies, to one degree or another, act in their own best interests. The Jews in Israel have been repatriated into an area where their neighbours, perhaps in some instances with good reason, feel resentment towards them. Their actions, albeit at times heavy handed and misguided, are aims at self preservation. Can you really blame them given their recent history? I'm not being an apologist for the actions of the Israeli state, many of the actions they're undertaken against the indigenous Arab/Muslim/Palestinian population have been abhorent and vindictive, but to label an entire religious group as "as the jewish are the most racist people in the world (NOT all of them)" is unacceptable, and wrong. Your braketed (NOT all of them) doesn't really work either, you can't label an entire group in such a way and then almost retract it the next. Are they the most racist or aren't they, you can't have it both ways? Even if you're saying "SOME Jewish people are the most racist people in the World" that would need serious coroborating evidence to back it up.

ALL societies/religions will have extreme racist elements, the Islamic extremists that attacked New York don't represent every Muslim, but I'd certainly class them as racist (their hatred of everyone and everything not Muslim/different to themselves is pretty much the dictonary definition). Are you seriously trying to claim Jewish people are worse than these extremists?

Basically your standpoint doesn't hold up to any real form of critique, and as such it comes across as an ill-informed rant. If people read this rant and form the opinion you're racist because of it's content then that's an understandable assumption, a great deal of what you've said would seem to be motivated by an irrational hatred of the Jewish faith/people.
 
buzzer1 said:
Daviesmcfc - "That is one of the most racist things I have ever read.
The figures are NOT blown up, I am Jewish my self and many people I know had their entire families killed by the Nazi's. If anything, it was more than six million. To suggest Jewish people pumped the figure up to get Israel is extremely racist. You should go to Auchwitz, you should see the gas chambers. the confiscated items and the death camps. It would bring a tear to anyone's eye how six million innocent people were killed.

The last bit of your post is the biggest load of sh*t I have ever seen. The wealthy Jews did not help transport the lower class Jews and if they did it was because they were forced to by the Nazi's.

You are a Holocaust denier as there is overwhelming proof that millions of Jewish people were killed."

Buzzer1 ...

Whatever you believe the upper class jewish people did transport the lower class jews to the camps for immunity and probably for certain death. Do not dare call me Racist, as the jewish are the most racist people in the world (NOT all of them). The Rothschild created ADL and b' naibraith (spellcheck) as the habit of branding people, with names to suit their adgenda, i.e Racist, holocaust denier if it does not suit their poxy agenda. And yes Israel was bombed into existance and if you can get your one brain cell round this.. iam not English, Scotish, Jewish, Arobic, Asian, or any other stupid fucking name that you choose to allow yourself to be branded with. I am from this piece of ground on which i stand, which in turn belongs to the universe!

If you would of seen some of my other posts and comments, then you surely will see this. We are just an experiment from the stars, and untill people like you wake up to this minipulation we will always be at logger heads.

The only flag i wrap myself in Comes in the colours blue & white!


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