Bobby's problem

[Pam]

I don't really understand the Garcia bashing on here. He looks slow but de jong and barry were hardly the quickest either.

Before Garcia went off he was winning the ball in the midfield and we were matching dortmund blow for blow.

When he went off we stopped winning the ball and were battered by dortmund.

I know some of you love to single out a player to hate and especially since he replaced a 'fan favourite'. But to pick on garcia who went off injured when we were playing well is a really strange one.

The people who are judging him on the strength of three or four games in a new team and in a new country are idiots.

 

[Comrade Buka]

I don't really understand the Garcia bashing on here. He looks slow but de jong and barry were hardly the quickest either.

Before Garcia went off he was winning the ball in the midfield and we were matching dortmund blow for blow.

When he went off we stopped winning the ball and were battered by dortmund.

I know some of you love to single out a player to hate and especially since he replaced a 'fan favourite'. But to pick on garcia who went off injured when we were playing well is a really strange one.

The people who are judging him on the strength of three or four games in a new team and in a new country are idiots.

Your ability to tackle disappears when moving to a new country.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

The cry babies on here, ffs. Jesus, stop whinging like divine-right-to-win-everything-and -always play-well rag twats. We will play our way into this season soon enough. Sorry, but this is absolutely pathetic and embarassing from some of you, it truly is.

Isn't one of the main points of a football forum is to talk about the performances and tactics?
Just because people are getting pissed of with Mancinis bizarre tactics doesn't mean there rags and what is embarrassing is Dortmund completely outplaying us in our backyard.

-- Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:52 pm --

He's not a rag, he's just upset Dzeko doesn't get more game time.

and when dzeko play bad like tonight he's upset with the manager becouse if dzeko isnt better than messi and ronaldo is becouse the manager is an idiot , of course

As opposed to when Balotelli plays shit. You are as objective as a rhino in heat.

lol and still think Joe Hart is shit Mancio

 

[Blue Heaven]

Re: bobbys problem

and when dzeko play bad like tonight he's upset with the manager becouse if dzeko isnt better than messi and ronaldo is becouse the manager is an idiot , of course

As opposed to when Balotelli plays shit. You are as objective as a rhino in heat.

there are 3 big differences between me and you :

- i dont blame mancini when he doesnt play mario
- i dont blame mancini when mario plays bad
- i dont hope for a city defeat when mario isnt played , a thing i suspect many of you bosnians actually do.

Well, well, if it isn't my old friend. You know, I just looked at your "location" for the first time. You aren't, perchance, The Leaning Tower of Pisa, are you? Just wondering, because your perspective seems about as skewed as the famous landmark I referenced above. One of these days, I fully expect to find that you've toppled straight over. That's you, not the tower, hopefully.

 

[Challenger1978]

----------------------- Hart --------------------------
Zabaleta --- Kompany -------- Lescott --------- Clichy
-------- Garcia ------- Yaya -------- Barry ------------
---------------- Silva --------- Tevez / Nasri -----------------
---------------------- Balotelli -------------------------

Richards for Zaba,Milner for Garcia and definitely Tevez and you've just picked our best 11 imo.

I'm not sure about Richards over Zabaleta as there is not too much difference between them. The main difference between the two is that Micah's whole game rely's on his physical attributes (pace and strength) where as Zab's is based on technical attributes. I think Zab's first touch, positioning and reading of the game is a lot better than Richards however Richards is more of a presence on the right hand side so not an easy call for me.

I would like to see Milner given a chance in the central role as his work rate is fantastic, I personally think he is wasted on a wing. To go forward we cannot accomodate all of our "big names" is the same first 11 and players like Nasri and Aguero may have to miss out at first but when they get their chance they need to take them. However this is my biggest criticism of Mancini is that players don't get picked on their form. With the formation I chose, Nasri can relish playing there but Mancini has proved over last season that he will be sticking with Silva whenever he is fit regardless of form.

I'd go for Richards to in the formation you picked (I like that formation) as he's a beast on the right that can just knock the opposition flying as he charges past them with the ball. He is also and this is a key point faster and more manoeuvrable then Zabba, so he can recover and get back to help the defence quicker.

 

[Pam]

I don't really understand the Garcia bashing on here. He looks slow but de jong and barry were hardly the quickest either.

Before Garcia went off he was winning the ball in the midfield and we were matching dortmund blow for blow.

When he went off we stopped winning the ball and were battered by dortmund.

I know some of you love to single out a player to hate and especially since he replaced a 'fan favourite'. But to pick on garcia who went off injured when we were playing well is a really strange one.

The people who are judging him on the strength of three or four games in a new team and in a new country are idiots.

Your ability to tackle disappears when moving to a new country.

Rubbish. It can take time for players to settle. That part of it can affect any area of a footballer's game. Some players hit the ground running and some don't. FACT.

 

[SWP's back]

The people who are judging him on the strength of three or four games in a new team and in a new country are idiots.

Your ability to tackle disappears when moving to a new country.

Rubbish. It can take time for players to settle. That part of it can affect any area of a footballer's game. Some players hit the ground running and some don't. FACT.

True I remember both Vidic and Evra looking like lost sheep for their first 8 or 9 games.

 

[Petrovs left peg]

My observations from last night;

Firstly, I switched to level 2 last night after years of watching on level 1 - what a difference on what you see with regards to shape of the team! At one point last night we had the outline shape of a rugby ball. Back four with both Rodwell and Toure coming to collect it with Nasri and Silva wide and the two up front. Usually GB collects, quickly into YY's feet who turns and starts a menacing attack. THe key to our success (IMO) is Yayas ability to take the first man out of the game which then causes the opposition to lose shape and then we have the quality to punish. With YY coming back doing Barrys job (or NDJ) and Rodwell shadowing him the ball constantly kept coming back - I realised the difference between patience and pure "fannying" last night - It drove me madas we must have used up about 20 minutes of the entire match "fannying"

2. Zabba, Rodwell, Nastasic, Dzeko are not good enough for a CL first 11.

How is Zabaleta not good enough for the CL, he was our best outfield player last night and is constantly improving. He is one of the best readers of the game in our squad and he proved that last night as on at least 2 occasion he covered mistakes by Kompany and stopped a goal scoring opportunity.

Nastasic is 19 and hasn't really put a foot wrong whilst playing for us IMO. Lescott would have badly struggled last night as his distribution consists of playing it back to Hart, passing it sideways to Kompany or punting it up field. Where as Nastasic is a lot more composed and will look for a pass and IMO had been badly let down by Kompany thus far in his City career. Also giving him CL experience now will benefit him in the long term.

Dzeko well I doubt Wolfsberg fans were saying that or City fans against Madrid, Dzeko struggled last night because of poor creativity and no real support. Would you say the same about Aguero who missed 3 good opportunities and refused to pass a number of times to players who were in a better position then he was?

As much as we all love Zabba's all-action play, do you really think he's good enough??? I want him to be but he's an average player in this company.

Nastasic may be more composed but he's 19 and not ready for the CL in my opinion. I did say that Bobby needs to use him more in PL if he doesn't trust Lescott.

Dzeko for me is a great striker but when we have to pack the midfiled more we need a striker who van create as well as finish - see Tevez / Aguero. As much as it is a cliche - He's a great guy to have on the bench.

 

[Comrade Buka]

The people who are judging him on the strength of three or four games in a new team and in a new country are idiots.

Your ability to tackle disappears when moving to a new country.

Rubbish. It can take time for players to settle. That part of it can affect any area of a footballer's game. Some players hit the ground running and some don't. FACT.

So your ability to tackle MIGHT disappear when moving to a new country? Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Freestyler]

mancini's tactics, baffling substitutions, formation and constant team shuffling and moving about is where the problem ies.