Really_here
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What do you mean by "right" ?Glad he acted the way he did at Leeds because god knows what would have happened had he acted right
What do you mean by "right" ?Glad he acted the way he did at Leeds because god knows what would have happened had he acted right
I read an biography about Revie one of the best books i read gave an insight into the man ............lets be right with his chasing of money the world was a different place back then and i would be amazed if the majority of managers didnt take backhanders back then.I'll tell you a story about Revie. When I was at college I had a pretty good friend who was a lifelong Arsenal fan. Never missed a home game. It so happens that his stepfather had played for the great Arsenal team of the 1930s. So this guy did have access through his stepfather (who was still alive, I believe) to info that the normal fan does not. Now it so happens that Revie was one of the candidates for the manager's post at Arsenal that, I think, Bertie Mee finally got in ‘66.
Revie came in, sat down in front of the board, and was duly interviewed. They discussed terms. All fine and dandy. Then Revie right at the end said "And now, what about other payments?” It was clear that he meant, by this, under-the-counter stuff. They said, “Mr Revie, there's the door.”
Good player for City. As a manager — somewhat different.
As in going in and not causing a storm straightaway away upsetting the majority of players before they even got down to work.What do you mean by "right" ?
He did act right.Glad he acted the way he did at Leeds because god knows what would have happened had he acted right
Clough's hatred for their methods which included kicking his Derby team off the pitch, particularly in the days before a European Cup tie and their arrogance was well justified. He walked away laughing if a tad wounded from Leeds, with a payoff and it didn't work out badly for him after that did it (that last, very sad season aside). He acted right in my view because he was true to himself and told the very players he despised what he thought of them. Truly admirable if the wrong thing in terms of keeping them onside in the short term. Long term he could have built a super dominant team in his own image with the money available at Leeds. That said, a League and two successive European Cups at Forest is rather dominant albeit for 3 years!He did act right.
It was the dirty Leeds lot that couldn’t handle the truth.
There’s the game, when Dave MacKay was coming back from a broken leg or arm (I can’t remember which;, and the dirty Leeds players were targeting him.Clough's hatred for their methods which included kicking his Derby team off the pitch, particularly in the days before a European Cup tie and their arrogance was well justified. He walked away laughing if a tad wounded from Leeds, with a payoff and it didn't work out badly for him after that did it (that last, very sad season aside). He acted right in my view because he was true to himself and told the very players he despised what he thought of them. Truly admirable if the wrong thing in terms of keeping them onside in the short term. Long term he could have built a super dominant team in his own image with the money available at Leeds. That said, a League and two successive European Cups at Forest is rather dominant albeit for 3 years!
There’s the game, when Dave MacKay was coming back from a broken leg or arm (I can’t remember which;, and the dirty Leeds players were targeting him.
The picture of MacKay holding Bremner by the scruff, and Bremner looking shit-scared, combined with their attempts to injure him again, showed just what a bunch of cowardly shithouses they were.
I’ve just found it:It's a classic picture. I love it. Nasty little shit. For all Mackay's hardness he was respected from what I can recall (I was very young).
When I was little lad of about 4 or 5 I cam remember my late Dad ranting about Billy Bremner. He hated him and he didn'teven support anybody in England back then (East Bengal in India being his team).
I felt how much Leeds were still hated (despite Bremner, Giles and co being long gone) in my 2nd game watching City in December 1980, with "We all hate Leeds and Leeds and Leeds..." bring belted put with gusto and the ecstatic celebrations of Kevin Reeves' last minute winner had extra feeling.
Nor had I.Thing of beauty.
Thanks. Never seen it in colour before.