Brian Marwood {merged}

[blue12]

Brian Marwood

Watching what is going on I suspect FFP is starting to bite and behind the scenes people know we are going to have to comply.

If FFP is enforced rigidly in the future (and it is still a big if) it makes things interesting. If we can effectively only spend what we earn haven't we really lost the major benefit of having very wealthy owners ? Is there any point having millions of pounds to spend on players if we legally aren't allowed to do it.

I am in no way knocking the owners as I am delighted at the way are going about things and I know that funds can be spent in ways that don't affect FFP (the academy etc). I think their ownership happened in the nick of time as we were able to scramble up to the top table just before the chairs get kicked away!

On the plus side the fact that we got a top notch team just ahead of FFP really kicking in means that our revenue is increasing dramatically and that really has to be our prime focus as it looks like that is going to determine how much we have to spend in the future - we have got to increase the capacity at the Etihad sooner rather than later, even if we don't fill it every game.

I also think that FFP will depress transfer fees and wages in the long term (both good things in my view).

City are going to remain one of the top teams in the UK & Europe without a doubt but I think any thoughts of us running away with it every year will be a bit unrealistic if FFP is enforced properly. We are very fortunate that United are not in a position to spend what they earn because of their odious owners (Long may the Gazers reign!)

I agree with all of what your saying mate ,just don't understand how psg and Chelsea seem to be completely sticking their fingers up to it or am I missing something.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Brian Marwood

Some good discussion breaking out here finally. I don't like Marwood but I base it on his 'clever clogs' demeanour rather than hard facts. Picking up on Damocles comments(good post by the way) I have also heard negative comments about Marwood from within the camp where he was seen as khaldoon's Teachers pet-a tell tale arselicker. But bitchy comments come out of the dressing room and rarely tell the whole story.

The most interesting part of the discussion is whether it is a political move to hang Marwood out to dry. My instincts tell me it isnt. I know Mancini wouldn't think twice about knifing a colleague to increase his power base. I know they were rumoured not to have talked for a couple of months 18 months ago. With regards to damocles post (I'd have replied directly but it's so long my phone doesn't offer the reply option) about the fallout last close season, I believed it to be cook's head Mancini wanted. But yes, the leaks could be from the Marwood camp, intriguing theory.

What you are dead right on is that we can't change the structure for the manager. It's there for a reason. We had a manager with total control and we still can't get rid of his mistakes.

I see this is a frustrated manager sending a message to the big boss. But it might be more...

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Re: Brian Marwood

Watching what is going on I suspect FFP is starting to bite and behind the scenes people know we are going to have to comply.

If FFP is enforced rigidly in the future (and it is still a big if) it makes things interesting. If we can effectively only spend what we earn haven't we really lost the major benefit of having very wealthy owners ? Is there any point having millions of pounds to spend on players if we legally aren't allowed to do it.

I am in no way knocking the owners as I am delighted at the way are going about things and I know that funds can be spent in ways that don't affect FFP (the academy etc). I think their ownership happened in the nick of time as we were able to scramble up to the top table just before the chairs get kicked away!

On the plus side the fact that we got a top notch team just ahead of FFP really kicking in means that our revenue is increasing dramatically and that really has to be our prime focus as it looks like that is going to determine how much we have to spend in the future - we have got to increase the capacity at the Etihad sooner rather than later, even if we don't fill it every game.

I also think that FFP will depress transfer fees and wages in the long term (both good things in my view).

City are going to remain one of the top teams in the UK & Europe without a doubt but I think any thoughts of us running away with it every year will be a bit unrealistic if FFP is enforced properly. We are very fortunate that United are not in a position to spend what they earn because of their odious owners (Long may the Gazers reign!)

I agree with all of what your saying mate ,just don't understand how psg and Chelsea seem to be completely sticking their fingers up to it or am I missing something.

I wouldn't place Chelsea in the same bracket as PSG. Chelsea's earnings are up over the 300m per annum mark I think, so despite spending big they are probably still just about FFP compliant. PSG though just don't seem to give a shit, but I have not the slightest doubt that the one club that **** Platini wants to penalise is City. He refers to us all the time, but never PSG! Anyway, it probably explains our owner's reticence to go on a spending spree.

 

[waspish]

Brian Marwood

Watching what is going on I suspect FFP is starting to bite and behind the scenes people know we are going to have to comply.

If FFP is enforced rigidly in the future (and it is still a big if) it makes things interesting. If we can effectively only spend what we earn haven't we really lost the major benefit of having very wealthy owners ? Is there any point having millions of pounds to spend on players if we legally aren't allowed to do it.

I am in no way knocking the owners as I am delighted at the way are going about things and I know that funds can be spent in ways that don't affect FFP (the academy etc). I think their ownership happened in the nick of time as we were able to scramble up to the top table just before the chairs get kicked away!

On the plus side the fact that we got a top notch team just ahead of FFP really kicking in means that our revenue is increasing dramatically and that really has to be our prime focus as it looks like that is going to determine how much we have to spend in the future - we have got to increase the capacity at the Etihad sooner rather than later, even if we don't fill it every game.

I also think that FFP will depress transfer fees and wages in the long term (both good things in my view).

City are going to remain one of the top teams in the UK & Europe without a doubt but I think any thoughts of us running away with it every year will be a bit unrealistic if FFP is enforced properly. We are very fortunate that United are not in a position to spend what they earn because of their odious owners (Long may the Gazers reign!)

I agree with all of what your saying mate ,just don't understand how psg and Chelsea seem to be completely sticking their fingers up to it or am I missing something.

I wouldn't place Chelsea in the same bracket as PSG. Chelsea's earnings are up over the 300m per annum mark I think, so despite spending big they are probably still just about FFP compliant. PSG though just don't seem to give a shit, but I have not the slightest doubt that the one club that **** Platini wants to penalise is City. He refers to us all the time, but never PSG! Anyway, it probably explains our owner's reticence to go on a spending spree.

Chelsea's turn over was around 240m I think, for last season probably be around 270m

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Re: Brian Marwood

I agree with all of what your saying mate ,just don't understand how psg and Chelsea seem to be completely sticking their fingers up to it or am I missing something.

I wouldn't place Chelsea in the same bracket as PSG. Chelsea's earnings are up over the 300m per annum mark I think, so despite spending big they are probably still just about FFP compliant. PSG though just don't seem to give a shit, but I have not the slightest doubt that the one club that **** Platini wants to penalise is City. He refers to us all the time, but never PSG! Anyway, it probably explains our owner's reticence to go on a spending spree.

Chelsea's turn over was around 240m I think, for last season probably be around 270m

Either way, it's 50-70m more than us, with similar overheads, so like I said probably just about within their means

 

[allan harper]

Brian Marwood

Some interesting facts about Marwood.

1.he doesn't like flying and prefers to use his bicycle.

2. He loves writing letters and for this reason hes never owned a mobile phone.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Re: Brian Marwood

Some interesting facts about Marwood.

1.he doesn't like flying and prefers to use his bicycle.

2. He loves writing letters and for this reason hes never owned a mobile phone.

So the worst person to have as a CEO. Would be better to have Stephen hawking.

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Re: Brian Marwood

Maybe it's just all a charade...

Why would Bobby (knowing the score) sign a new contract and then slap the chairman and owner in the face by slagging one of the top brass?

My personal opinion is that the mind games have started early.

We'll make a couple of signings towards the end of the window.

There is every chance that could be true.However he appears to have had a slight ( !!) dig at Marwood on a couple of occasions lately.

-- Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:27 am --

I thought Bobby's new terms of his contract was that he had more control over transfers?

I can see this ending bad and Bobby walking out!

Sorry I don`t think for one moment that will happen.The Boss or Khaldoon will intervene if it ever got to that stage.IMO anyway.

I hope so!

From what I've heard as well Marwood is too interested in selling our youth players (Suarez and Razak &Co.) Then wanting to see them in the city side. Also apparently we had the chance in signing Victor Moses but instead Marwood offered Alex Nimley a new contract and the boardroom kicked off about it.

I honestly think Marwoods career is in jeopardy here and if he's not rid of before the closing days of the window I honestly can't see Mancini coping in another transfer window with him!

 

[Damanino]

Re: Brian Marwood

Chelsea isnt in as big trouble with FFP. Selling the stadium name is still open for them.
And their summer spending is not as expensive as it seems like. They are still looking to sign someone like Moses and a rightback like Azpilicueta both around 10m deals.
And then they have a very good and young team with great potential. Also they still thinking about a striker (Cavani) dont think they gonne get one this window but who knows.

Dont think City isnt signing players just because of FFP.
What if Hazard's agent ask for a little bit smaller agent fee? Then we spend great money on Hazard and his wage also.
But yes,we need to make things differently, not to offer joke wages to players and make them paid 3 times more than at their previous clubs.

How much mone we lost on players like Bridge, RSC, Jo, Adebaor, Caicedo etc.
If we add it up Hazard's agent fee would be like 10 cents...
And we are still losing big on players like Kolarov, we cant sell him just on ~ third of the price we bought him.

 

[grim up north]

Re: Brian Marwood

Maybe it's just all a charade...

Why would Bobby (knowing the score) sign a new contract and then slap the chairman and owner in the face by slagging one of the top brass?

My personal opinion is that the mind games have started early.

We'll make a couple of signings towards the end of the window.

There is every chance that could be true.However he appears to have had a slight ( !!) dig at Marwood on a couple of occasions lately.

-- Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:27 am --

I thought Bobby's new terms of his contract was that he had more control over transfers?

I can see this ending bad and Bobby walking out!

Sorry I don`t think for one moment that will happen.The Boss or Khaldoon will intervene if it ever got to that stage.IMO anyway.

I hope so!

From what I've heard as well Marwood is too interested in selling our youth players (Suarez and Razak &Co.) Then wanting to see them in the city side. Also apparently we had the chance in signing Victor Moses but instead Marwood offered Alex Nimley a new contract and the boardroom kicked off about it.

I honestly think Marwoods career is in jeopardy here and if he's not rid of before the closing days of the window I honestly can't see Mancini coping in another transfer window with him!

That is absolute garbage. He cannot wait to see, especially Suarez in the first 11 he thinks he is an outstanding talent