Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

[malg]

I think the dislike on here stems from arsehole comments by some of the Bayern directors/old guard towards our club.

 

[bayern blade]

He may not have left if he had not been tapped up. Most of the players I mentioned have moved or been available in the last couple of years. The Transfer fee is not a problem, because Bayern are hardly short of money. Nor did Bayern plan on getting Lewandowski for free, so the difference in price would be negligible.

If South American players can come and learn English, settle into the English culture then Germany is not going too hard for them.

Lewandowski is a hardworker, but so are most of the players on that list. Suarez, Rooney and RVP are all harder workers than Lewandowski, whilst Higuain, Benzema, Falcao and Aguero work just as hard. I don't think Lewandowski would fit in any better than say Benzema, Higuain, Rooney, RVP or Falcao. Cavani though would probably have been the best fit.

All in all it does not really matter. Unless Dortmund spend 50 odd million in the summer the gap will only increase.

At the moment Germany accepts the gap, because they have convinced themselves that this Bayern are 'just that good' that no team can compete. When Bayern face PSG, Madrid etc they are going to lose this crutch and face the truth.

He would definately have left, he said ages ago that he would not sign a new contract.

-- Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:32 am --

Hahaha, what a bunch of twats!

Feel free to continue contributing your rapier like wit and incisive repartee to the debate.<br /><br />-- Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:35 am --<br /><br />

I think the dislike on here stems from arsehole comments by some of the Bayern directors/old guard towards our club.

Having a different point of view is allowed, in anycase I read the German and UK media and a lot of what gets reported in the UK press is taken out of context or simply made up.

 

[City_Sean]

Gomez
Mandzukic
Goetze
Lewandowski
Neuer
Dante
Gustavo

not to mention you could be going for Draxler.

All signed to weaken other teams and strengthen yours, in the process making you're league a complete non event. you're league will die out due to the fact nobody can catch you.

So where do you get your players then ffs ?

You really make me smile with this holier than thou bollocks. The fact that city raided Arsenal over and over didn't matter then eh ?

We have signed a few players from other teams, but we haven't consistently weakened our rivals so that our league becomes a non event like yours.

 

[Maldeika]

Gomez
Mandzukic
Goetze
Lewandowski
Neuer
Dante
Gustavo

not to mention you could be going for Draxler.

All signed to weaken other teams and strengthen yours, in the process making you're league a complete non event. you're league will die out due to the fact nobody can catch you.

So where do you get your players then ffs ?

You really make me smile with this holier than thou bollocks. The fact that city raided Arsenal over and over didn't matter then eh ?

We have signed a few players from other teams, but we haven't consistently weakened our rivals so that our league becomes a non event like yours.

That is just bullocks. A transfer now and then from different clubs does not really weaken any of them especially if you see that there has been a lot of other transfers inside and to the outside of Germany, too. From the current team only Starke, van Buyten, Dante, Götze, Neuer, Mandzukic and Pizarro came from other Bundesliga clubs. There is even more players of the academy in the squad.

And that the league becomes a non event has more to do with the other clubs than with Bayern. It is just one and a half years ago that Bayern has passed on the Bundesliga Championship twice and I remember newspaper articles then that talked about of the end of an era in Germany then... The last time Bayern won the Championship twice in a row has been in 2005 and 2006.

Bayern has to have this strength to be really competitive in Europe. If the other teams in Germany do not have the same qualities they might first have to look what mistakes they have made. Not only in Germany - as the teams that spent much more money for less success could be asked the same... Why do people that made a great work get blamed and not others that just did not?

At the moment Germany accepts the gap, because they have convinced themselves that this Bayern are 'just that good' that no team can compete. When Bayern face PSG, Madrid etc they are going to lose this crutch and face the truth.

That is your opinion and your believe... - I remember that last year the same was told about Barca and Juve... I never have seen CR7 playing a good match against Lahm - and there has been a couple of them in the recent years. Actually Boateng got him very quiet at the Euros. And PSG did not have a decent opponent until now this year - it is easy to look good against minors - than every team looks like a world beater...

Bayern is stronger than last year around the same time. Is it the same with the opponents?

 

[supercrystal7]

That is your opinion and your believe... - I remember that last year the same was told about Barca and Juve... I never have seen CR7 playing a good match against Lahm - and there has been a couple of them in the recent years. Actually Boateng got him very quiet at the Euros. And PSG did not have a decent opponent until now this year - it is easy to look good against minors - than every team looks like a world beater...

Bayern is stronger than last year around the same time. Is it the same with the opponents?

This may have been said last year, but not by me. I have repeatedly said that the Bayern team last was the best I have ever seen and I fully expected to them to beat Juve and Barca. The worry I had was that they may lose it mentally after the Arsenal game. If they kept their nerve I did not think there was a team that could match them. That Bayern team had no weaknesses.

You say that Lahm has always had the best of Ronaldo and that's true, but this says more about Lahm than Ronaldo. I think Lahm is the best ever right back and easily the best right back of my lifetime. I don't make statements like this lightly and I am not one to call the latest footballer the 'best ever'. Unfortunately this year Lahm has shown he cannot switch to being a good right back with no practice; whilst Rafinha is no where near his standard. Alaba and Lahm could keep any winger in their pocket, but Lahm is not there and Alaba is too far up the pitch.

Bayern are definitely not stronger this year around. They have more and better players, but the way they have been played and the tactics have weakened them significantly.

High level football is high level football and sometimes it does not matter about the quality of your opponent to judge how good a team is. PSG are a lot better this year and Madrid, due to the lack of infighting are better (though not better than in 2012 in my opinion). Bayern still have the best players and may still win it, but they are not the unstoppable force of last season.

 

[Maldeika]

Like said, that is your believe. But I think different. I watch them very closely since summer - often watch matches twice or three times. And look for the tactical changes Guardiola makes. And I know that e.g. the final of 16 after the winter break often is more difficult than the matches in March, April and May.

The peak of form for the players is set for this periods - not for February.

Guardiola still has the same tactical possibilities Heynckes had - and he more often uses them, too, and not only his Baycelona ideas. And he has additional options.

 

[supercrystal7]

Well hopefully you are right. I don't have any problem with Bayern and would rather they win the Champions League than pretty much every other team in it.

In other new Holtby on the bench for the bottom team in the PL. He should be the poster boy for Schalke players to what happens when you move too early.

 

[bayern blade]

Gomez
Mandzukic
Goetze
Lewandowski
Neuer
Dante
Gustavo

not to mention you could be going for Draxler.

All signed to weaken other teams and strengthen yours, in the process making you're league a complete non event. you're league will die out due to the fact nobody can catch you.

So where do you get your players then ffs ?

You really make me smile with this holier than thou bollocks. The fact that city raided Arsenal over and over didn't matter then eh ?

We have signed a few players from other teams, but we haven't consistently weakened our rivals so that our league becomes a non event like yours.

That's absolute bollocks, you helped ensure Arsenal would spend years without winning a pot to piss in for a start. Your list includes 1 player from Stuttgart, 1 player from Wolfsburg, 1 player from Dortmund (Lewa is out of contract and, in anycase still at BVB), 1 player from Schalke, 1 from Hoffenheim and 1 from Gladbach. Firstly one player each from these teams is hardly ruining them, (your argument is childish and a joke), secondly
where do you suggest we sign our players from then as you appear to have all the answers ? I'd honestly be interested to know which German teams you think we should be able to buy players from. Also do you really think we should start weakening the squad so the others can catch up ? The onus is on them not on us.
You seem to think that we should not be allowed to buy Bundesliga players, how f##king stupid is that ? You seem quite happy with City signing premiership players though, if you had the chance of, say, Suarez you wouldn't give a flying f##k about weakening Liverpool just as I'm sure you didn't care about weakening Arsenal.

We are about to win the BL for all of two years running so it is now a non-event ? Priceless. In anycase the answer is simple, if you don't like it don't watch it.

-- Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:48 pm --

Bayern are definitely not stronger this year around. They have more and better players, but the way they have been played and the tactics have weakened them significantly.

Like Maldeika I have to completely disagree, Bayern are most certainly stronger this season than last. That is also the opinion of BL experts such as Netzer, Beckenbauer, Effenberg etc.

 

[dazdon]

I think the dislike on here stems from arsehole comments by some of the Bayern directors/old guard towards our club.

That's it in a nutshell.

Classless cunts.

 

[bayern blade]

I think the dislike on here stems from arsehole comments by some of the Bayern directors/old guard towards our club.

That's it in a nutshell.

Classless cunts.

You on the other hand obviously ooze class, it shines through in every word of your highly thought out and intelligent post.

 

[dazdon]

I think the dislike on here stems from arsehole comments by some of the Bayern directors/old guard towards our club.

That's it in a nutshell.

Classless cunts.

You on the other hand obviously ooze class, it shines through in every word of your highly thought out and intelligent post.

You're taking this a little too personally Helmut.

 

[bayern blade]

You're taking this a little too personally Helmut.

Very witty, bravo.

Not at all, success is always followed by jealousy, you get used to it.

 

[dazdon]

What I will never get used to is understand the brain of a German rag.

I think we'll agree on that :-)

 

[bayern blade]

What I will never get used to is understand the brain of a German rag.

I think we'll agree on that :-)

Dunno what you're talking about mate. Anyway I'm not German, I'm from Sheffield, I've been living over here since the 80's.

 

[dazdon]

What I will never get used to is understand the brain of a German rag.

I think we'll agree on that :-)

Dunno what you're talking about mate. Anyway I'm not German, I'm from Sheffield, I've been living over here since the 80's.

If you don't know what I mean by 'A German rag' then you've not paying attention very well.

:-)

 

[supercrystal7]

Like Maldeika I have to completely disagree, Bayern are most certainly stronger this season than last. That is also the opinion of BL experts such as Netzer, Beckenbauer, Effenberg etc.

Maybe you are, but like with players it's not beating Hamburg by 6 rather than by goals that prove it. It's winning the big games. If you perform like you did in the Cup final against Dortmund/Wolfsburg and perform like you did last year against Madrid/PSG/Barca then I will agree. In the big games this season despite results the performances City apart have not been that convincing. Anyway opinions are opinions the upcoming months will tell us how good this Bayern team really is.

 

[bayern blade]

If you don't know what I mean by 'A German rag' then you've not paying attention very well.

Oh I know that you're making some vague comparison or other with Man utd (and no I can't stand them either), but at my age I'm not bothered about playground arguments about fans.
Anyway I'm off out for a beer before the match, (can't go today due to broken foot but I can get to the f##king pub).

 

[dazdon]

Oh I know that you're making some vague comparison or other with Man utd (and no I can't stand them either), but at my age I'm not bothered about playground arguments about fans.
Anyway I'm off out for a beer before the match, (can't go today due to broken foot but I can get to the f##king pub).

Have a good day in the pub m8 i'm only enjoying a bit of banter even if I do genuinely think that some of the Bayern directors are gobshites.

And I hope that foot gets better.

 

[bayern blade]

Oh I know that you're making some vague comparison or other with Man utd (and no I can't stand them either), but at my age I'm not bothered about playground arguments about fans.
Anyway I'm off out for a beer before the match, (can't go today due to broken foot but I can get to the f##king pub).

Have a good day in the pub m8 i'm only enjoying a bit of banter even if I do genuinely think that some of the Bayern directors are gobshites.

And I hope that foot gets better.

Cheers pal, no worries . I enjoy this site, far better than the Arsenal, Man utd and Chelsea forums I've visited.

 

[BayernMan]

Funny goal by Alaba lol!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xmzPPpwnk[/youtube]

Training goal:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSKMLo5IPuI[/youtube]