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Burnley Vs City Post Match Thread
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blue b4 the moon
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Sack the board.......
Seriously, it was poor today, a bit like most of the season really.
The team needs rebuilding but our transfer strategy seems to be spend what money we have on over priced 'crap' and sell our players for pennies while giving contracts to the MDM's and Boyata's of this world but not Milner.
There's a bad case of communication breakdown above and players who not just for Pelli have shown they are gutless and are too big for their boots.
God knows what will happen in Spain but a big defeat and I think Pelli will be toast.
Seriously, it was poor today, a bit like most of the season really.
The team needs rebuilding but our transfer strategy seems to be spend what money we have on over priced 'crap' and sell our players for pennies while giving contracts to the MDM's and Boyata's of this world but not Milner.
There's a bad case of communication breakdown above and players who not just for Pelli have shown they are gutless and are too big for their boots.
God knows what will happen in Spain but a big defeat and I think Pelli will be toast.
Rösler von Stretfordbömber
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Utterly horrendous effort. I do think that the manager has very little to do with this (felt like watching Wigan at Wembley and any number of other matches two years ago.)
That said, Pellers seems not to have to magic formula for getting some passion and effort out of this lot. He'll take the fall at some point obviously. Ees football, I guess. Seems like a very good, classy, and decent man. And calling him an old &^% and whatever else a large number of people on this site do is pretty despicable. Not like he wants these players to stroll about aimlessly and lose every 50/50 ball and get out-hustled by the likes of George Fucking Boyd.
Hopefully some new blood and attitude can be injected into the side over the summer. And that whoever is in charge can get whomever stays from this lot up to earning their enormous salary cheques.
That said, Pellers seems not to have to magic formula for getting some passion and effort out of this lot. He'll take the fall at some point obviously. Ees football, I guess. Seems like a very good, classy, and decent man. And calling him an old &^% and whatever else a large number of people on this site do is pretty despicable. Not like he wants these players to stroll about aimlessly and lose every 50/50 ball and get out-hustled by the likes of George Fucking Boyd.
Hopefully some new blood and attitude can be injected into the side over the summer. And that whoever is in charge can get whomever stays from this lot up to earning their enormous salary cheques.
I'm just lost for words. Definatley the lowest I have felt after a city game since the Wigan cup final. These players and manager were record breaking double winners last season. They can't have all regressed at the same time surely??
We have arguably the greatest city squad there has ever been and yet we are still unhappy. The bar of expectation has been raised to a point now that even losing a game seems like a crisis to some of us. It's because we have tasted success and we long for more. I can only see one outcome in all this and that's the managers head. It's the price of modern football. Hero last season and the villain the next.
For the record I like pellers. I like his calmness and his demeanour. But I think he lacks tactical awareness and if plan a doesn't work we have no plan b.
And his subs are another story.
I know it's frustrating when we lose but we must stick together. We know everyone else in the world wants this club to fail. But we must try and see the bigger picture. Difficult now I know after tonight's dross but we aren't going anywhere. Rome wasn't built in a day. You only get better by learning from your mistakes. We will have the last laugh one day. Chins up lads and lasses.
We have arguably the greatest city squad there has ever been and yet we are still unhappy. The bar of expectation has been raised to a point now that even losing a game seems like a crisis to some of us. It's because we have tasted success and we long for more. I can only see one outcome in all this and that's the managers head. It's the price of modern football. Hero last season and the villain the next.
For the record I like pellers. I like his calmness and his demeanour. But I think he lacks tactical awareness and if plan a doesn't work we have no plan b.
And his subs are another story.
I know it's frustrating when we lose but we must stick together. We know everyone else in the world wants this club to fail. But we must try and see the bigger picture. Difficult now I know after tonight's dross but we aren't going anywhere. Rome wasn't built in a day. You only get better by learning from your mistakes. We will have the last laugh one day. Chins up lads and lasses.
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Remember That Roy Keane Quota About Rolex Watches?
As much as I despised him for all sorts of reasons, Roy Keane was a born winner who couldn’t abide team mates resting on their laurels. Ferguson shared his obsessive drive and hunger for success, and together they bullied players into sacrificing personal desire for collective glory.
Roberto Mancini was a winner and we loved him for it. He wasn’t bothered about making enemies, but sadly they conspired against him so we replaced Mancini with a far nicer, decent sort of chap, who preferred calmness to public volatility.
Now calmness is fine in the short term, but once the players start to make the same mistakes, and more disturbingly show exactly the same type of complacency that Keane and Ferguson so publicly loathed, you start to question the motivation. What exactly does Mr Pellegrini do when things are going wrong?
I’ve never been one for wanting Managers sacked, but the warning signs were appearing as early as last summer when Yaya looked overweight in the pre season friendlies and all our World Cup players seemed to have more time off than those at other clubs. Then we had the farce of the Community Shield when City lined up with two left backs and two reserve central defenders who have never featured as a partnership since.
The Stoke defeat should have been the watershed moment that all Champions experience. United once lost as Burnley, but I don’t recall them also dropping points in the manner of our appalling performances at Upton Park and Loftus Road.
Similarly, God knows how we qualified from our Champions League group because in truth we only played well for about 45 minutes in Moscow and 45 minutes in Rome. Thankfully Bayern got sloppy and our one truly World Class player gave City a lifeline.
Fight till the end? We didn’t even fight in the beginning or the middle. We haven’t really done anything apart from slowly drift backwards.
Today we probed and probed and probed. Fifteen 1mph passes resulting in a Burnley corner.
Oh yes set pieces. Remember them?
Kompany soaring majestically against the rags. Yaya profiting against the rags. Edin’s volley against the rags
Wait a minute…….
But I digress.
In twenty years time we will remember Mancini with affection because he helped us overcome Satan.
The way he stood up to Ferguson and turned City into a team who could play fantastic football, but if the occasion merited, could also fight fire with fire. A team with a heartbeat, who cared about each other and used the mercenary taunts as inspiration.
We will then remember his successor. A nice bloke who smiled a lot and won the league with Mancini’s team. A Manager who spent an awful lot of money on potential when we needed the finished article.
We will then question why he sold our only technically intelligent holding midfielder. A player often derided by City fans, but crucial if you wanted Silva and Nasri in the same team.
We will also recall the defeat at Burnley A strange game when City didn’t start with any of his six signings from the two previous transfer windows.
I’m now on my third can of stella since returning from Turf Moor and I’ll be there in Barcelona.
I’ve laughed at all the cliches about York, Lincoln and Darlington. I did them all, and to be honest I’m more impressed that I did 58/60 in the less trendy 87-88 season (Plymouth H and Barnsley H if you’re wondering)
As the song goes.
People ask me who I support
And I tell them, but they don’t know why.
I don’t care if they win or lose
Just as long as they try
Up the Blues!
As much as I despised him for all sorts of reasons, Roy Keane was a born winner who couldn’t abide team mates resting on their laurels. Ferguson shared his obsessive drive and hunger for success, and together they bullied players into sacrificing personal desire for collective glory.
Roberto Mancini was a winner and we loved him for it. He wasn’t bothered about making enemies, but sadly they conspired against him so we replaced Mancini with a far nicer, decent sort of chap, who preferred calmness to public volatility.
Now calmness is fine in the short term, but once the players start to make the same mistakes, and more disturbingly show exactly the same type of complacency that Keane and Ferguson so publicly loathed, you start to question the motivation. What exactly does Mr Pellegrini do when things are going wrong?
I’ve never been one for wanting Managers sacked, but the warning signs were appearing as early as last summer when Yaya looked overweight in the pre season friendlies and all our World Cup players seemed to have more time off than those at other clubs. Then we had the farce of the Community Shield when City lined up with two left backs and two reserve central defenders who have never featured as a partnership since.
The Stoke defeat should have been the watershed moment that all Champions experience. United once lost as Burnley, but I don’t recall them also dropping points in the manner of our appalling performances at Upton Park and Loftus Road.
Similarly, God knows how we qualified from our Champions League group because in truth we only played well for about 45 minutes in Moscow and 45 minutes in Rome. Thankfully Bayern got sloppy and our one truly World Class player gave City a lifeline.
Fight till the end? We didn’t even fight in the beginning or the middle. We haven’t really done anything apart from slowly drift backwards.
Today we probed and probed and probed. Fifteen 1mph passes resulting in a Burnley corner.
Oh yes set pieces. Remember them?
Kompany soaring majestically against the rags. Yaya profiting against the rags. Edin’s volley against the rags
Wait a minute…….
But I digress.
In twenty years time we will remember Mancini with affection because he helped us overcome Satan.
The way he stood up to Ferguson and turned City into a team who could play fantastic football, but if the occasion merited, could also fight fire with fire. A team with a heartbeat, who cared about each other and used the mercenary taunts as inspiration.
We will then remember his successor. A nice bloke who smiled a lot and won the league with Mancini’s team. A Manager who spent an awful lot of money on potential when we needed the finished article.
We will then question why he sold our only technically intelligent holding midfielder. A player often derided by City fans, but crucial if you wanted Silva and Nasri in the same team.
We will also recall the defeat at Burnley A strange game when City didn’t start with any of his six signings from the two previous transfer windows.
I’m now on my third can of stella since returning from Turf Moor and I’ll be there in Barcelona.
I’ve laughed at all the cliches about York, Lincoln and Darlington. I did them all, and to be honest I’m more impressed that I did 58/60 in the less trendy 87-88 season (Plymouth H and Barnsley H if you’re wondering)
As the song goes.
People ask me who I support
And I tell them, but they don’t know why.
I don’t care if they win or lose
Just as long as they try
Up the Blues!
What to say i quiet expected this outcome so no surprise.
Losing a game, drawing no problem it could happen to any team. But having a shit form for more than 15 games couldn't happen even under Mancini
Who is to blame forget Pellegrini he is not going to stay long but the quality and form of some players is not good starting from their captain Kompany
Losing a game, drawing no problem it could happen to any team. But having a shit form for more than 15 games couldn't happen even under Mancini
Who is to blame forget Pellegrini he is not going to stay long but the quality and form of some players is not good starting from their captain Kompany
SlimShadyRus
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lol, it found nothing... You should be a bit lucky searching a gif in google as it may get different results depending on when did you click. #BoringMilner <a class="postlink" href="https://www.google.ru/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisBztg04GkfLemQr9e2VOgCcD-8RYnhQ2D2gsTdfcIDjZGFDWs6Dy3UdEJ3EtQU2CO0Z5t0NvyoHyLSw31A3-dj8eLLI5ppBFuqMuFIG-bAE7Q220IHIAnyMsxahRQEPXQ6tSmfDvs9bwPbMoOmVmOxeSWZUQMNmDM74_11oli07V_1_1qmpb-Qarw-oh2IzYMGycECVl7OU773dShTRR2eeV12kVfaDqjHYEhjxgJjqJVlCXcgwjAdl20AmQa7L42ZWXYuYW8QW0HrCA2OP98XMtykobhGfi90FsI3PelyBV-vOi7sopbkFWZoC6zgnxYa8FS0NElETFtxL88c6xndW9QMWt2GsSpvtzzdVPnsQB7EIeToqdNrcT3rNGfDndrJqAADTMNJPnyaxtsJZ-1R7LnuVXcY1lcSEfAH8lLeg-fkvGSRcJZ4dy4FKd0C3bGoddaBJPZAK_1IofLArLmcstEu7Pf6PFmtBCEMVNWVmPWfTsRmG0TkCKMVn0LEc-bdRBqyn_1CAEr4bvsUR-woZ69P5d9sSwRl4BqskxATyLPc-W35cSITgZ824hwxLR7-ab3GnJS50_14JKgxwYg3VsOyHlk-yGvwv-cbq9iMF75G0wjJTOvSRWoRZDwfX-neiWH1DJbXFap8gdKKKj_1fOELFsgjthYu0irNAnKzuOmNpscQt4xfOpDwOa32y9PzHsNIxXme2YTi5ccrjvZjm68sgtciXXj1w6hSDIaYPCIjUxbalWuPUUSWE0G8XvCxQpM4_1MTE2L0UKm7FzhGzZAEYdv5Ro4PSUpF0BMz0FnfXTSkWeZltS8GCIG5LRruXTpzWI4XLMTEuHpZT0dpD9JWjD6MexlQs8Yd7lEuNcYbcA2kUzEzuaVEECAPr4bgcoe_1NpdKDxCZmgVGeSKqpIyYcsQNEM0yrkEAYO3XUWqxTVZlcvdH5g_16OlHZOFs2yL-L9_1ruf_1qzCj4-_1WuFAU31pb6yzmMqp5LuodEfXw91lCt3zLdbycOzQAcaH4KmfI2BNh8BqVyxkFq9SN_1E5DkGFlTYKZbx3aiNpzlbSBD6XE-H_13LW_1RVmTg1u_1G_1nQ5U-2LX-dotZDsjItpgd20gd9guvjOa7P9v3m6XiZsLjxfQhitRWqWDWhvU2N5eVzjPohx-w7ebbbCxCeC0FWcrchmemZY5P-RG1hZw_1imIfAPOVdAqA5Wb3mO415yAKL0pn2U_1LzS9ykkPG9stmC5tTwuLg5i3rY0Ywx8jOsEKa9HUHgmXMvNaW2NEQcnNCw2WbkE5v3xoMjuiP47Sz9XVESAAIDq_1Or9TyGA0jHu1vDZ292Ml0CFwg0FncfCP7jgyHLSfxs8q1jsoXBXUqyI3JBbeNNLwCGupbtLI7uVXNmUGIumsax_1f4wk4zEbtdXjnfuD9JTEbCpQLj4WrgQ7IGCKDV-Gv8LqILOrzK43-SJkR9tpWat3oyt3UCbZL6NxGW3ktkGfKeiWdAPKPjRZQgnF-2KWmQ12Sjc1lqHfdhViRpEZjEKHc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.google.ru/search?tbs=sbi:AM ... iRpEZjEKHc</a>mick10 said:Wtf!How do you know that? How does any body know that? lolNQCitizen said:It's from R Kelly's 'Trapped in the Closet'SlimShadyRus said:Nice gif btw! What TV series/movie is it from?
The Citizen Kane of the hip hopera genre.
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That was a game of two poor teams but at least one put in 90 minutes of effort.
If Pellegrini can't see how poor Yaya and Dzeko were and pull them at half time then he is not managing the team, somebody else is.
We should have had a penalty but that would have been only led to a draw, we should be beating teams like Burnley if we have any ambition at all.
It was painful to watch as have been a whole host of matches this season.
Something is amiss and we the fans are suffering because of it.
If Pellegrini can't see how poor Yaya and Dzeko were and pull them at half time then he is not managing the team, somebody else is.
We should have had a penalty but that would have been only led to a draw, we should be beating teams like Burnley if we have any ambition at all.
It was painful to watch as have been a whole host of matches this season.
Something is amiss and we the fans are suffering because of it.
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Credit Burnley - organised, committed, 1st to every second ball, with players working for each other.
All the top teams match ability with effort and desire, we had it the last 10 games of last season, but its gone.
Tatical naivety (yet again) by the manager combined with inability to change mid game, when things aren't going our way, means that we are way to predictable and easy to play against. Feel sorry for our defenders and forwards, limited protection at the back, little support upfront.
But most worrying of all today was the players body language and lack of desire throughout all of the game - was reminiscent of Boro away and the Wigan final
But this is City - anything can happen in Barca - wouldn't surprise me if we win 3-1 (theres no way we'll keep a clean sheet) or lose by 6
All the top teams match ability with effort and desire, we had it the last 10 games of last season, but its gone.
Tatical naivety (yet again) by the manager combined with inability to change mid game, when things aren't going our way, means that we are way to predictable and easy to play against. Feel sorry for our defenders and forwards, limited protection at the back, little support upfront.
But most worrying of all today was the players body language and lack of desire throughout all of the game - was reminiscent of Boro away and the Wigan final
But this is City - anything can happen in Barca - wouldn't surprise me if we win 3-1 (theres no way we'll keep a clean sheet) or lose by 6
Dribble
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I'll say what I said 18 months ago 44fuckin2 and a manager sat on his arse watching us implode. It's plain to see there's also a problem with the players, they looked unmotivated and in the mood for open dissent.
Kompany has never played like he did today from the day he signed for us. He was nervous, unsure and playing it safe to make sure any mistakes made weren't his. Everytime he came under the slightest pressure he hoofed the ball up to 5ft 8" Aguero or should I say in the general direction of.
Make no mistake about it folks, we're in a battle for a top 4 spot. Why our manager persists in being so dogmatic about our formation when all around him see things differently is beyond me. Let's just say our worst fear comes through and we don't get into the CL next season (which is a serious possibility), then what next for our project if the jewel in the crown slips and falls so early into it incepton?
This has been coming for ages and last years' double only sought to mask the fact the defensive solidarity we'd built our current side on was being slowly eroded to be replaced by uncertainty and comically amaturish levels of defending when it mattered most.
Pellegrini is no mug and MUST be able to see what the rest of us can see, so as someone alluded to earlier has he just decided that if his time has come, he's going out his way? Whatever is going on, owners, chairmen, CEO's, D'soF, manager's, coaches and players will come & go, the only constant is us fans. I just hope all the aformentioned pull together in time to stop our season disintegrating altogether, because life without CL football and what it will mean to us from a FFP viewpoint doesn't bear thinking about.
Kompany has never played like he did today from the day he signed for us. He was nervous, unsure and playing it safe to make sure any mistakes made weren't his. Everytime he came under the slightest pressure he hoofed the ball up to 5ft 8" Aguero or should I say in the general direction of.
Make no mistake about it folks, we're in a battle for a top 4 spot. Why our manager persists in being so dogmatic about our formation when all around him see things differently is beyond me. Let's just say our worst fear comes through and we don't get into the CL next season (which is a serious possibility), then what next for our project if the jewel in the crown slips and falls so early into it incepton?
This has been coming for ages and last years' double only sought to mask the fact the defensive solidarity we'd built our current side on was being slowly eroded to be replaced by uncertainty and comically amaturish levels of defending when it mattered most.
Pellegrini is no mug and MUST be able to see what the rest of us can see, so as someone alluded to earlier has he just decided that if his time has come, he's going out his way? Whatever is going on, owners, chairmen, CEO's, D'soF, manager's, coaches and players will come & go, the only constant is us fans. I just hope all the aformentioned pull together in time to stop our season disintegrating altogether, because life without CL football and what it will mean to us from a FFP viewpoint doesn't bear thinking about.