Can we afford to let Barry go?

I'm not happy enough with the present City midfield , we have been far from convincing in two of our games .......

as for Gareth Barry , i see he's now speaking of his 'delight' at his switch to Everton , the only club who showed interest in him , when in reality he wanted to stay here , but was given little choice
 
coleridge said:
Gelsons Dad said:
BillyShears said:
I suspect the decision was a pragmatic one based on Barry's age, wages, desire to play regular football in a world cup year, and Garcia's ability to be shit not only in midfield but also at centre half!

Wasn't Barry shit at LB early in his career? I'm pretty sure he could still do a shit job there now if required!

For what it's worth, I would have kept him and got shot of Garcia before his reputation is completely gone. One year on and we will be selling an even less valuable Garcia and looking for a replacement.

I thought he just got in the Spanish squad. Something doesn't add up.

Who Barry?

You're right, something doesn't add up!
 
I imagine Barry was on a great deal more than Garcia when we were pumping out excessive wages, im sure this will have something to do with it. We've got to give him a chance, if he doesnt improve he will be replaced in Jan or next summer.
 
I've no doubt that he'll impress at Everton and get himself a decent contract off them to see out his playing days there and good luck to him.
Has to be pound for pound one our best signings.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
I don't understand this one at all.
We have loaned out a usefull player in his last season. What the fuck is in this for us? We lose an asset that had some market value, we pay part of his salary if rumours are to be believed and at the end of the season his contract is up.

It's the kind of crap that put Spanair to the wall!
stupid decision this, as was letting kolo go. I wonder if we`re going to continue playing without a def midfielder as well ? until we get slaughtered that is.
 
Jnr Kisby said:
I imagine Barry was on a great deal more than Garcia when we were pumping out excessive wages, im sure this will have something to do with it. We've got to give him a chance, if he doesnt improve he will be replaced in Jan or next summer.

Barry could be on 10x as much as Garcia, because he's 10x the player.
 
It would appear that Barry was binned because the Director of football thought he was no longer good enough

presumably judged on Barrys performances last season

I happen to agree with that assessment good job the club is not run by all the armchair managers who post on this forum

Barry wasn't good enough so he was binned get used to it and move on!
 
Barry was very good for us in 85% of the games he played last season. Unfortunately in the games when he was poor (eg at Ajax, Southampton and Everton) he was terrible. And those teams targeted him to ensure that a poor individual performance became a poor team performance. I think Barry's reached the stage where we cannot rely on him in vital games. And if he's only going to be playing infrequently, will his form and sharpness suffer?

We've brought in Fernandhino in midfield. The signing of Navas also means that Milner will play fewer games on the right, could be played more in central midfield. Overall (and making the big assumption that Rodwell stays fit) we seem to have an abundance of midfield players.

If we were going to lose a midfield player most would prefer to lose Garcia rather than Barry. But taking into account their ages and contract positions it seems to me to be understandable that the club chose to let Barry go. And I can understand why he decided that it would be right for him to move.
 
cibaman said:
Barry was very good for us in 85% of the games he played last season. Unfortunately in the games when he was poor (eg at Ajax, Southampton and Everton) he was terrible. And those teams targeted him to ensure that a poor individual performance became a poor team performance. I think Barry's reached the stage where we cannot rely on him in vital games. And if he's only going to be playing infrequently, will his form and sharpness suffer?

We've brought in Fernandhino in midfield. The signing of Navas also means that Milner will play fewer games on the right, could be played more in central midfield. Overall (and making the big assumption that Rodwell stays fit) we seem to have an abundance of midfield players.

If we were going to lose a midfield player most would prefer to lose Garcia rather than Barry. But taking into account their ages and contract positions it seems to me to be understandable that the club chose to let Barry go. And I can understand why he decided that it would be right for him to move.

You could look at that and say the only games that Barry played badly in were the games we looked shocking in, and extrapolate it to we need Barry to play well for City to play well.<br /><br />-- Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:38 am --<br /><br />
whp.blue said:
It would appear that Barry was binned because the Director of football thought he was no longer good enough

presumably judged on Barrys performances last season
I happen to agree with that assessment good job the club is not run by all the armchair managers who post on this forum

Barry wasn't good enough so he was binned get used to it and move on!

Not at all, have you even read the thread? The reasons for his departure have been described numerous times and they're mainyl financial.

The fact you couldn't appreciate how good a player Barry was for us makes me feel very sorry for you. He was good enough for Benitez, Capello and Mancini, three serial trophy winning managers and the two who actually got to manage him made him a regular starter, week in, week out.
 
kenzie115 said:
cibaman said:
Barry was very good for us in 85% of the games he played last season. Unfortunately in the games when he was poor (eg at Ajax, Southampton and Everton) he was terrible. And those teams targeted him to ensure that a poor individual performance became a poor team performance. I think Barry's reached the stage where we cannot rely on him in vital games. And if he's only going to be playing infrequently, will his form and sharpness suffer?

We've brought in Fernandhino in midfield. The signing of Navas also means that Milner will play fewer games on the right, could be played more in central midfield. Overall (and making the big assumption that Rodwell stays fit) we seem to have an abundance of midfield players.

If we were going to lose a midfield player most would prefer to lose Garcia rather than Barry. But taking into account their ages and contract positions it seems to me to be understandable that the club chose to let Barry go. And I can understand why he decided that it would be right for him to move.

You could look at that and say the only games that Barry played badly in were the games we looked shocking in, and extrapolate it to we need Barry to play well for City to play well.

-- Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:38 am --

whp.blue said:
It would appear that Barry was binned because the Director of football thought he was no longer good enough

presumably judged on Barrys performances last season
I happen to agree with that assessment good job the club is not run by all the armchair managers who post on this forum

Barry wasn't good enough so he was binned get used to it and move on!

Not at all, have you even read the thread? The reasons for his departure have been described numerous times and they're mainyl financial.

The fact you couldn't appreciate how good a player Barry was for us makes me feel very sorry for you. He was good enough for Benitez, Capello and Mancini, three serial trophy winning managers and the two who actually got to manage him made him a regular starter, week in, week out.

you quote only three managers that he was good enough for so by the same rule there are in fact thousands of managers who thought he was not good enough for

and the financial argument only comes to the fore once you make the decision that he isn't good enough to play<br /><br />-- Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:13 pm --<br /><br />
kenzie115 said:
cibaman said:
Barry was very good for us in 85% of the games he played last season. Unfortunately in the games when he was poor (eg at Ajax, Southampton and Everton) he was terrible. And those teams targeted him to ensure that a poor individual performance became a poor team performance. I think Barry's reached the stage where we cannot rely on him in vital games. And if he's only going to be playing infrequently, will his form and sharpness suffer?

We've brought in Fernandhino in midfield. The signing of Navas also means that Milner will play fewer games on the right, could be played more in central midfield. Overall (and making the big assumption that Rodwell stays fit) we seem to have an abundance of midfield players.

If we were going to lose a midfield player most would prefer to lose Garcia rather than Barry. But taking into account their ages and contract positions it seems to me to be understandable that the club chose to let Barry go. And I can understand why he decided that it would be right for him to move.

You could look at that and say the only games that Barry played badly in were the games we looked shocking in, and extrapolate it to we need Barry to play well for City to play well.

-- Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:38 am --

whp.blue said:
It would appear that Barry was binned because the Director of football thought he was no longer good enough

presumably judged on Barrys performances last season
I happen to agree with that assessment good job the club is not run by all the armchair managers who post on this forum

Barry wasn't good enough so he was binned get used to it and move on!

Not at all, have you even read the thread? The reasons for his departure have been described numerous times and they're mainyl financial.

The fact you couldn't appreciate how good a player Barry was for us makes me feel very sorry for you. He was good enough for Benitez, Capello and Mancini, three serial trophy winning managers and the two who actually got to manage him made him a regular starter, week in, week out.

you quote only three managers that he was good enough for so by the same rule there are in fact thousands of managers who thought he was not good enough for

and the financial argument only comes to the fore once you make the decision that he isn't good enough to play
 
I wouldnt say he would be a shoe in for the Everton team they have some decent options for the central role. Barkley has looked good for them so far add into the mix the likes of Osman , McCarthy and even Gibson there is competition for places there. Some good young players in McCarthy and Barkley who will benefit from Barry around the squad but he will have to hit the ground running to hold onto his place.
 
whp.blue said:
you quote only three managers that he was good enough for so by the same rule there are in fact thousands of managers who thought he was not good enough for

and the financial argument only comes to the fore once you make the decision that he isn't good enough to play

Brilliant. By your logic Scholes was really shit then as because he only played for one manager, none of the others must have rated him. Congratulations on the most ridiculous piece of reasoning I've possibly ever read.

The financial argument is the only argument. The fact is that if Barry was on £20,000 per week instead of £120,000 and had more than one year left on his contract he'd still be here.

Suggesting only 'armchair fans' rate Barry is also absurd as he's the antithesis to a Match of the Day player. He doesn't make the highlight reels because he does the dirty work, mopping up after everybody else, marking space to prevent the opposition creating attacks, and these things don't make the Match of the Day highlights. You can only really appreciate Barry when you see him live week in, week out.

Every pundit has commented on what a good piece of business it is by Everton and the following are just some articles that have been written about him:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?id=395" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?id=395</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.com/News/Features/2013/September/City-Blogger-Steven-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.com/News/Features/2013/ ... r-Steven-1</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-owe-debt-gareth-5836093?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... um=twitter</a>

It would appear you're in the minority.
 
Looked to me like Barry was wanting a new challenge. Good luck to Barry at Everton . I think Barry was a great buy for Manchester City in 2009 .I remember Aston Villa weren't happy we bought him .
 
whp.blue said:
you quote only three managers that he was good enough for so by the same rule there are in fact thousands of managers who thought he was not good enough for

Logic, you have no grasp of it.

But lets have a laugh, you're saying Barry is crap because he didn't play for thousands of clubs
 
Barry will have a couple of great games for Everton but these will be mixed in with four or five useless performances. We had the best out of Barry, time to move on.
 
This idea that people who think he's not good enough (me included) are somehow missing some genius player is absurd.

We all know he is hard working, he's still not good enough for a top team who wants to win champions leagues
 
6one said:
This idea that people who think he's not good enough (me included) are somehow missing some genius player is absurd.

We all know he is hard working, he's still not good enough for a top team who wants to win champions leagues

As opposed to the useless soft shites that barely mustered a performance for us today ?
 

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