Cashless society

[awest]

The CBDC is what is mentioned more and more. So digital payments connected to everything. All very interesting but how will pensioners cope who don't trust banks in the first place?

 

[metalblue]

I work in the service industry, 80% domestic homes

Id say 75% is BACS and 25% cash

I wont have a card machine as they are too costly
Trouble is, cash is a dirty word and its always the presumption no tax is paid on it. But most of mine is used paying other supplier's etc and i guess it just goes round and round.

Tax will always be paid on it, eventually. The government will always get every penny we ever earn. Unless you burn it.

 

[117 M34]

Passports are merely for when you enter or leave a country. Driving licences are simply for driving offences.
Phones are a problem but unless you are a criminal plod aren't interested. And whilst i know you are being flippant about a tesco meal deal, if you trust a government to have all your information, who you bank with, where you go what you spend etc. Great. I don't. I fell foul of the tax man, neither my employer nor my union would support me to take them on even though both said I was right. That's how powerful they are. There was a recent case where H M Taxwanks bankrupted an innocent woman. Even after the intervention of a judge they refused to back down.

But if they wanted to find that information out about you, they would already know it.

I've got a mate who had to visit Mi5 office because he was doing some building work for them. When he arrived, they already knew that he stopped at the petrol station on the way and how much he had spent.

They can find it all out already so there is no need for the big conspiracy.

 

[staffsblue]

But if they wanted to find that information out about you, they would already know it.

I've got a mate who had to visit Mi5 office because he was doing some building work for them. When he arrived, they already knew that he stopped at the petrol station on the way and how much he had spent.

They can find it all out already so there is no need for the big conspiracy.

If you've ever watched "Hunted" on TV you'll already know how easy it is to trace people through phone calls, and phone GPS, numberplate recognition, CCTV and cash withdrawals from ATMs
I have nothing to hide, so not at all concerned about any of this, but it does seem difficult to go "off grid" in modern society.

 

[BrianW]

Almost everyone has a mobile phone these days, which means they can track exactly where you are if they want to do so. That's just the start.

The technology is in place for an absolute tyranny, but how do you avoid it? Go off-grid and live in a cave, eating only what you can scavange?

In reality, I don't think the government gives a shit, or ever will, whether I buy a coffee or not, spend half my income on Airfix kits, or buy 200 books a month. Quite apart from anything else, just think of the number of clerks they would need to monitor everyone. The truth is they haven't even the resources to monitor known terrorists properly. They certainly are not going to bother with people living quiet, uneventful lives.

 

[N1985]

As long as they don't know what I've hidden in the gap behind the kitchen bin cupboard, I'm fine.

That Latvian prostitute isn't it? Don't worry it's one less for them to throw on a boat

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

I live near London and I genuinely have not handled a British bank note in what… maybe two years?

I pay for everything on my phone. Cash ruins my budget analytics and makes it far harder to manage my money.

 

[blue44]

Keep seeing leaflets about the dangers of a cashless society. Will it be that bad if we go totally digital?

Not about cash, about smartphones etc.
I work with a bloke who is 63, been a season ticket holder since way back at MR.He gave it all up and hasn't returned once since we went digital a few years back,very sad.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Almost everyone has a mobile phone these days, which means they can track exactly where you are if they want to do so. That's just the start.

The technology is in place for an absolute tyranny, but how do you avoid it? Go off-grid and live in a cave, eating only what you can scavange?

In reality, I don't think the government gives a shit, or ever will, whether I buy a coffee or not, spend half my income on Airfix kits, or buy 200 books a month. Quite apart from anything else, just think of the number of clerks they would need to monitor everyone. The truth is they haven't even the resources to monitor known terrorists properly. They certainly are not going to bother with people living quiet, uneventful lives.

That's not the point. Who are you? One bod. Now if I could tell them all about 500 guys all like you, in your constituency. That's how elections are won.

That's why they really are all into the data. All parties. Trust me. All into it. All the time. Every single policy, every statement. Run through the data. Everyone is grouped and typified, forgotten, regrouped along different lines. A hundred times a week. To try and predict what they might get away with by messaging to certain groups. It might be more specific, the parties and affiliated organisations may well have long term lists for facebook accounts and data to go with them. Honestly, I'm not sure.

Cambridge Analytica got caught. But there seems little reason you can't do it in a 'clean room', away from any official party duty or links. And then you can tell people what to do, how to use this stuff.

It's also true that the job of managing your data is routinely handed (by this government) to overseas shitbags like Peter Thiel. I'm not sure what sort of access they have or how it can reasonably be restricted.

 

[Summerbuzz]

That Latvian prostitute isn't it? Don't worry it's one less for them to throw on a boat

Lol, no.

It's 5 ounces of ground panda cock. I use it to pay for Chinese takeaways.