Cavani Speculation/News 3 (or 4)

nmc said:
BringBackSwales said:


for me the option would be to look at another forward, however unlike many on here I do not get to watch much football other than City so I would have to leave it to those who know best as to who might be a more viable and economical option - I also would not turn my nose up at Cavani, I just think that if we get him there is less money for an Isco/Thiago (or two) as well as decent back up for GK, left back and centre back. I am also of the (minority) view that Edin Dzeko is a better player and goalscorer than many on here give him credit for - great mins per goal ratio, likely to play better and score more with more pace in the team

-- Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:03 am --

Super David Silva 21 said:
Has he signed yet???


yes we swapped him for Kolarov, Garcia and a dead cat


The other team have returned Kolarov and asked if we have another dead cat!


pmsfl
 
BringBackSwales said:
its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

That maybe so but equally...
Cavani is a proven goalscorer in the CL.
His strike rate in Italy is phenomenal (traditionally the home of the tightest defences).
Statistically his goals scored standard deviation is very low. i.e. He rarely scores 3/4/5 a game and regularly scores 1. i.e. It is like starting every game already 0.72 goals up.
His work rate is phenomenal - as good as Tevez in his prime 2 seasons ago.
He scores 28+ goals a season now - In a team of quality players he would score 34+ goals a season.
Is the additional €23m as compared with other striker options worthwhile?
In my opinion - YES.
 
BlueAnorak said:
BringBackSwales said:
its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

That maybe so but equally...
Cavani is a proven goalscorer in the CL.
His strike rate in Italy is phenomenal (traditionally the home of the tightest defences).
Statistically his goals scored standard deviation is very low. i.e. He rarely scores 3/4/5 a game and regularly scores 1. i.e. It is like starting every game already 0.72 goals up.
His work rate is phenomenal - as good as Tevez in his prime 2 seasons ago.
He scores 28+ goals a season now - In a team of quality players he would score 34+ goals a season.
Is the additional €23m as compared with other striker options worthwhile?
In my opinion - YES.
And RVP is at the end of his career. Cavani should have several seasons.

The drawback with Cavani is that Aguero would end up as a support striker.
 
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Gazzetta dello sport are today saying that Napoli are "very close" to an agreement with PSV for dries mertens,as soon as this deal happens,cavani will be out of the door,IMO.
 
Marvin said:
BlueAnorak said:
BringBackSwales said:
its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

That maybe so but equally...
Cavani is a proven goalscorer in the CL.
His strike rate in Italy is phenomenal (traditionally the home of the tightest defences).
Statistically his goals scored standard deviation is very low. i.e. He rarely scores 3/4/5 a game and regularly scores 1. i.e. It is like starting every game already 0.72 goals up.
His work rate is phenomenal - as good as Tevez in his prime 2 seasons ago.
He scores 28+ goals a season now - In a team of quality players he would score 34+ goals a season.
Is the additional €23m as compared with other striker options worthwhile?
In my opinion - YES.
And RVP is at the end of his career. Cavani should have several seasons.

The drawback with Cavani is that Aguero would end up as a support striker.

Cavani can play on the left of a 3 & often does.
 
your mothers lover said:
one question.

Is this lad not my fault! any reliable?

It sounds to me that he's one of those itk's pretending to know stuff.

The only lad i respect in here is tolmie tbh

He is more reliable than you.

In fact, who are you?

You have 8 posts and are telling others they are ITK wannabees, but then saying that Cavani is going to Chelsea.

So were has your info come from.

BTW I doubt very much if you are a City fan.
 
BringBackSwales said:
nmc said:
BringBackSwales said:
for me the option would be to look at another forward, however unlike many on here I do not get to watch much football other than City so I would have to leave it to those who know best as to who might be a more viable and economical option - I also would not turn my nose up at Cavani, I just think that if we get him there is less money for an Isco/Thiago (or two) as well as decent back up for GK, left back and centre back. I am also of the (minority) view that Edin Dzeko is a better player and goalscorer than many on here give him credit for - great mins per goal ratio, likely to play better and score more with more pace in the team

-- Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:03 am --




yes we swapped him for Kolarov, Garcia and a dead cat


The other team have returned Kolarov and asked if we have another dead cat!


pmsfl
Mint.
 
What everyone seems to forget over last years failures in the transfer market is that RVP wanted to go to the rags. He wanted them over us, whether we were interested or not. Yes we probably could have tried harder to tempt him but his preferred option was to go to united.

With Cavani it is different, he has been quoted as saying he would be happy at each of the clubs interested. This year there has been more proactive selling from ADL, he hasn't marketed him like this before and with Benitez arriving it seems that they are looking to sell him if the price is right to fund other signings.

He is in his prime, Aguero and Cavani could play in the same side effectively and he would certainly be an asset to our side. He would be more long term than RVP was. United will have to go out for another striker soon and pay possibly another £30m on top of RVP's fee. Strikers are always expensive and very rarely stay at a club for longer than a few seasons. Most blow hot and cold and therefore someone who is proven over several seasons like Cavani is definitely worth buying. Other players that have a good season here or there or are hot property like Benteke after one season are more of a gamble.

The whole buying young and letting develop argument is all good and well but many players don't develop into the player they are hyped up to. I think it would be hard to argue that Cavani would not provide a lot to the team, he is a clinical striker. If it were a case of him or two or three additional players of high quality then it is a tricky one. We already have good quality options, and providing players with more quality and variation in midfield would help us break teams down. Aguero and Dzeko will score goals. It would not be the end of the world if we missed out on Cavani but I think that his acquisition would be the cherry on top of the icing we have added to the cake.
 
Off Newsnow

The mother of the Matador confirms the ongoing contacts with City and Real Madrid, then reveals: "He loves Naples, within twenty days of the final decision will come."

The future of Cavani remains a puzzle, a puzzle around which the entire market of Naples . Today tries to make clear the mother of Matador which, being interviewed by a radio station in Montevideo, puts a time limit on the decision about the possible departure of Edi son. " There are so many voices, when something happens we will be the first to know. Edi is negotiations with Manchester City and Real Madrid , the President of Naples talked about the possibility of negotiating with Chelsea , but nothing concrete. In 15 to 20 days we will know more and be able to say something " - admitted the Ms. Cavani. Finally, the mother of the Matador, confirmed the deep bond that unites the city of Naples and the Uruguayan striker, saying: "He loves Naples and, in the case were to go away, would never forget the love and affection of people. Salto and Naples will remain together forever " . Just to avoid this goodbye?
 

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