Cavani Speculation/News 3 (or 4)

[BringBackSwales]

Forget about "biding wars"
The simple fact of the matter is
this: Cavani has a contract with
Napoli. One of the clauses in
that contract is that any club
that offers €63m will have their
offer accepted by Napoli and
may negotiate personal terms
with the player. Until such time
as a club offer €63m, Napoli
don't have to do anything unless
they wish to accept a lower
offer. If someone offers €63m
then Napoli are duty bound to
accept that offer.

Not entirely correct, City have spoken to Cavani & wages agreed etc yet no fee with Napoli is agreed. It's been publicly stated that this is true so what you are saying is slightly flawed.
They will sell for less than the buyout, if not they miss out on their own targets & buying clubs know this. It's why we won't see any club paying the €63m, we know it & they know it. They're trying it on in the hope they get a bidding war but it won't happen.

where has it been "publicly stated that this is true"?<br /><br />-- Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:52 am --<br /><br />

The thing everyone is forgetting about Cavani's or in fact any players buyout clause, is the fact they are stupidly high for a reason!
No club wants to lose their top player so as a deterrent to would be buyers they make the buyout so high that its worth their while to lose the player if it's activated. In Cavani's case they know he's not worth €63m but why sell him for his worth? Clubs are in this to make money as a business & it's that, that people are forgetting in these deals. Messi for example has a €200m buyout, ok he's the worlds best but even he isn't truly worth €200m, no one is. But it's so high that if it's activated they have more than enough to justify the sale.
Now we come to the buying club, in this case us. We know we'll get him for less than the reported €63m but a game of cat & mouse has to be played to get there. If Napoli think 3 clubs are interested they'll hold out for more until 2 parties back out!
I mentioned Barça, I can bet you that if we offered €150m + for Messi they'd listen! Same with Cavani, he'll be sold for much closer to €45m IMO.

you may be right, but you have missed the other potential option, which is Cavani staying at Napoli if an offer is not made which is acceptable to ADL - this is an entirely feasible scenario

 

[BringBackSwales]

Many on here didnt want Van Persie...result - loss of league IMO
Cavani is expensive but all footballers are fucking overpriced. I hope city pay the release clause because this boy will guarantee us goals and in my opinion the best chance of winning the league back

its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Many on here didnt want Van Persie...result - loss of league IMO
Cavani is expensive but all footballers are fucking overpriced. I hope city pay the release clause because this boy will guarantee us goals and in my opinion the best chance of winning the league back

So what's the option then?

its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

 

[Super David Silva 21]

Has he signed yet???

 

[BringBackSwales]

Many on here didnt want Van Persie...result - loss of league IMO
Cavani is expensive but all footballers are fucking overpriced. I hope city pay the release clause because this boy will guarantee us goals and in my opinion the best chance of winning the league back

So what's the option then?

its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

for me the option would be to look at another forward, however unlike many on here I do not get to watch much football other than City so I would have to leave it to those who know best as to who might be a more viable and economical option - I also would not turn my nose up at Cavani, I just think that if we get him there is less money for an Isco/Thiago (or two) as well as decent back up for GK, left back and centre back. I am also of the (minority) view that Edin Dzeko is a better player and goalscorer than many on here give him credit for - great mins per goal ratio, likely to play better and score more with more pace in the team<br /><br />-- Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:03 am --<br /><br />

Has he signed yet???

yes we swapped him for Kolarov, Garcia and a dead cat

 

[Marvin]

Many on here didnt want Van Persie...result - loss of league IMO
Cavani is expensive but all footballers are fucking overpriced. I hope city pay the release clause because this boy will guarantee us goals and in my opinion the best chance of winning the league back

its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

But RVP will be 30 by the time the season starts.In 12 months time, there'll be planning on replacing him

 

[BringBackSwales]

Many on here didnt want Van Persie...result - loss of league IMO
Cavani is expensive but all footballers are fucking overpriced. I hope city pay the release clause because this boy will guarantee us goals and in my opinion the best chance of winning the league back

its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

But RVP will be 30 by the time the season starts.In 12 months time, there'll be planning on replacing him

I think they will get another 2 or 3 good years out of him tbh (hope they fucking don't though)

 

[your mothers lover]

one question.

Is this lad not my fault! any reliable?

It sounds to me that he's one of those itk's pretending to know stuff.

The only lad i respect in here is tolmie tbh

 

[Marvin]

its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

But RVP will be 30 by the time the season starts.In 12 months time, there'll be planning on replacing him

I think they will get another 2 or 3 good years out of him tbh (hope they fucking don't though)

Pace and movement over the first 5 yards creates chances. There are not many strikers who are at the peak of their game at that age. You can get away with it and adapt in other areas of the pitch. Tevez game suffered last season. And Rooney. Both playing deeper. Perhaps for other reasons as well

RVP was just as good as ever last season, but he can't keep on much longer

 

[nmc]

So what's the option then?

its all about opinions SHB, FWIW mine is that I wanted RVP at the time (£20M) cos he is clearly worth it, completely proven in PL and therefore guaranteed to score goals; the downside risk of RVP was and is his injury record but at £20M that was a worthwhile gamble. For me €63M is not a price worth paying for Cavani, and as he has never played in the PL he is not guaranteed a large number of goals, IMO, although the probability is that he will (but €63M is still too much of a gamble for me) - I also think that Napoli have a particular style of play that works very well for Cavani and we cannot expect to replicate that. I accept also that mine is the minority view in here

for me the option would be to look at another forward, however unlike many on here I do not get to watch much football other than City so I would have to leave it to those who know best as to who might be a more viable and economical option - I also would not turn my nose up at Cavani, I just think that if we get him there is less money for an Isco/Thiago (or two) as well as decent back up for GK, left back and centre back. I am also of the (minority) view that Edin Dzeko is a better player and goalscorer than many on here give him credit for - great mins per goal ratio, likely to play better and score more with more pace in the team

-- Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:03 am --

Has he signed yet???

yes we swapped him for Kolarov, Garcia and a dead cat

The other team have returned Kolarov and asked if we have another dead cat!