Champions League ban?

[SebastianBlue]

As has been alluded to throughout the thread, I would actually be very surprised if UEFA attempt to impose a ban, as this is as (if not more) dangerous territory for them than for us. A ban would almost certainly lead to very lengthy, very public court proceedings as we challenge it, and FFP in general, as unlawful constraint of business operations and trade. The discovery alone in such a case could be devastating for them, much less the potential findings and outcome (FFP being found to be illegal and unenforceable). UEFA has a soft, dark underbelly that they’ve spent quite a lot of time, effort, and money to prevent being exposed to the world, especially after the ongoing FIFA scandals, and acting to impose such penalties on City now would only incentivise the club to ensure UEFA’s corruption is made visible to all.

In short, they would have to be absolutely sure they not only have an airtight case for illegal manipulation, but also near on complete certainty that FFP would be upheld in a trade law challenge AND that nothing untoward would be made known during all of the proceedings.

I am not sure how they could have such confidence, and I am fairly sure they know City is one of the few clubs in the world resourced sufficiently to potentially take them down, brick by corrupt brick. That is a very big chance to take, especially in the face of reports of desires to form a European super league (regardless of each supporters views on if would be a good idea).

I always thought we would get more bad press from the Der Spiegel “leaks”, and I think we’ll continue to do so, but actual action is likely to be far more limited than Gill, Werner, Rummenigge, Perez, Tebas, and co would like.

 

[Roachy]

Don't know what to make of this to be honest. Mischief making? Certainly. Rehashing the previous transgressions? Definitely. Purely from a headline point of view it doesn't look good, but I stopped reading the papers years ago and tried to form my own opinions, instead of having them forced on me. I would like one of our bluemoon financial whizzes to come on and tell us this is all shite, but I'm sure even they are thinking WTF! It really does stink though, and unless the evidence against us is irrefutable I just cannot see the club taking it. To be honest, I dont think we're far off that point already. Wouldn't be surprised if things are already in motion in the background.

 

[balotellishaircut]

Where's this word "cheating " come from, it's 11v 11 on the pitch, we've won trophies fair n square, wtf are rags n dippers going on about. Some poxy journalist says something n everyone takes it as gospel, well you little fucking scrotum, we'll see you in court, that's it, he who laughs last laughs loudest.

 

[goater555]

When they shake that banner of corruption before the game as that shite tune is being played, can't we get the kids to trample all over it?

 

[Marvin]

Investment is cheating if it occurs within a 4 year period that happens to contain City expanding.

If it happens before or since it’s fine.

Yeah that’s going to be fine in a court because the media says it’s true.

UEFA are stupid but don’t kid yourself it’s them that is behind this. Don’t kill the puppet kill the puppet master. Who is trying to gain an unfair advantage by curtailing a competitors investment? Is that fine by EU law? Where is that ok in other industries?

So easy to cloud the truth with nonsense these days.

But don't think justice always prevails. It doesn't always. If they want to hit City, then I am pretty confident that Sheikh Mansour will respond and unlike Woodward, Glazer and the rest of the footballing incompetents he has demonstrated that he is smart. City already have the fanbase. UEFA will energise it, Sheikh Mansour will finance the infrastructure spend and City within 4-5 seasons will be out on our own and our children will inherit a super club not just our memories of City doing the 100 points and 100 goals in a season.

We've had a decade of memories that probably would have sustained us for the rest of our City supporting lives but at the moment that is down to the genius of Guardiola. How long will it last? 2-3 seasons if we are lucky and then what. Inevitably however incompetent Man Utd are, eventually they or most likely Arsenal will get it right and our time will come to an end. But if UEFA move against us, we will move back and go again and we'll end up with an even stronger club.

This City is built on the takeover and the investment thereafter. If UEFA and the clubs behind them want Round 2 then you go for it.

 

[Roachy]

Investment is cheating if it occurs within a 4 year period that happens to contain City expanding.

If it happens before or since it’s fine.

Yeah that’s going to be fine in a court because the media says it’s true.

UEFA are stupid but don’t kid yourself it’s them that is behind this. Don’t kill the puppet kill the puppet master. Who is trying to gain an unfair advantage by curtailing a competitors investment? Is that fine by EU law? Where is that ok in other industries?

So easy to cloud the truth with nonsense these days.

Well put to be honest. If not UEFA then certain other clubs spring to mind. If this doesn't work then it will be something else in 2 years time.

 

[CC1]

No more than City were doing down the self-sustaining route. I think the best chance Utd, Liverpool etc had was waiting for City's football cycle to reach it's end ad then use their size and history to beat us on the pitch and see us fade. But now if they force UEFA they will force our owner to respond and that means a motivated fan base, an expanded stadium, a new round of player recruitment when Guardiola's team requires it etc etc.
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Ah. I understand- he wasn’t thinking of pulling out. He just doesn’t need to invest further funds.

 

[Andrew___K]

Apologies, not read all the thread, but couldn't this be because UEFA already now what we did and signed off on it, but the old cartel are now leaking the info putting pressure on UEFA to act, causing us to take it further and this disband Ffp. Which in turn will allow those clubs to obtain new investment/ownership without looking at the bad guys and making us look like cnuts?

I know, tinfoil hat time

Very good point. If (let's imagine) UEFA decide to ban us illegally, we can take the hit or take UEFA to court. But either outcome would benefit the Cartel, they're like experienced chessmasters that have calculated all in advance.

City are losing the PR battle. It's doesn't matter if we're technically right or wrong, the future of club football won't be decided in courts.

I also think Spiegel are going to expose the link between FIFA's CWC project and 'dirly oil money', but delaying it until prior to FIFA president elections next summer. Guess they're thoroughly preparing this shot.

 

[Javi Garcia's Hairstylist]

Not read the whole thread - so point maybe made already - but to me this smacks of a whole lot of nothing other than PR face-saving by that reprehensible lot of thieves and scum.

1) UEFA embarrassed by football leaks series
2) Tries to save face by briefing about their "concrete" investigation and whatnot.
3) Which results in what, exactly?

More or less a repeat of the situation when Khladoon supposedly threatened to go to the mattresses with a 30 million legal team and smash that wretched hive of villainy off the face of the earth.

What really has changed since then? Other than City being a far, far stronger organisation?

From what I've observed of ADUG and its business practices, HH isn't going to fold before something like this. Not for a minute. Billions sunk in. And some wretched little organisation with probably not a whole lot of intrinsic, liquid assets wants to meaningfully attack him?

So what happens? UEFA decides to start a war they were unwilling to start 4 years ago when the relative scales of power have shifted further to their disadvantage? Just don't see it as being in their interest. At worst this ends in some sort of further settlement over the long ago spilled milk - which by definition would be something ADUG could live with.

Like everyone else here, nothing these vermin could do or say or try will affect my love of this club. If anything, I think their constant bullshit gives us a bit of an outlaw sort of cachet which is sort of cool. Maybe reminiscent of the Oakland Raiders of the Al Davis days who were always at odds with the NFL powers that be.

 

[Oleole123]

Sue them to death. Real Madrid Player use doping nothing happens.


Sue this bullshit uefa