Champions League Draw - 29th August '24 | Opponents (pg69) | Fixtures (pg128)

Gonna post something controversial..

We had a real chance and should be 4 in a row CL champions but blew 3 of our 4 chances since 2021 when we were clearly the better team vs Chelsea and 2 years vs RM.

We need to improve at cup knockout football.
 
Totally agree you say exactly what you see
Well done fantastic post
If we're all honest everyone should agree with you
 
Gonna post something controversial..

We had a real chance and should be 4 in a row CL champions but blew 3 of our 4 chances since 2021 when we were clearly the better team vs Chelsea and 2 years vs RM.

We need to improve at cup knockout football.

Ifs and buts. Most top teams can say the same thing.

Our record in cup/knock out football is also excellent. Has any team in a top European league won as many knock out cups as us since Pep arrived?

Champions League Winners

2022/23

FIFA Club World Cup Winners

2023

FA Cup Winners

2018/19, 2022/23

League Cup Winners

2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21
 
Ifs and buts. Most top teams can say the same thing.

Our record in cup/knock out football is also excellent. Has any team in a top European league won as many knock out cups as us since Pep arrived?

Champions League Winners

2022/23

FIFA Club World Cup Winners

2023

FA Cup Winners

2018/19, 2022/23

League Cup Winners

2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21
If you're comparing top European leagues, it's probably best to ignore League Cups as (apart from England) none of them has a second cup competition.
France did have a League Cup but it was discontinued in 2020 to avoid fixture congestion. None of the other major countries have ever had one.
 
If you're comparing top European leagues, it's probably best to ignore League Cups as (apart from England) none of them has a second cup competition.
France did have a League Cup but it was discontinued in 2020 to avoid fixture congestion. None of the other major countries have ever had one.

I’ll choose not to thanks.

Our record is fucking incredible and as good as any in the history of English football. I’ll celebrate it rather than drag it down.
 
As each team has to play another team there was half as many games as you've said in the previous format. There was 6 match weeks where each group had 2 matches and there was 8 groups. 6 x 2 x 8 = 96.

Assuming understood the new format there will 8 rounds of 18 matches = 144 matches - 48 extra.
I know you have quoted "group stage" but there's another 16 play off games after the initial League phase, groups don't count anymore. I think this is where the problem lies, 4 extra games for those teams in 9-24th position is an absolute killer especially if it concerns a team from the most competitive league in Europe, the Premier League.

The Competition could have been a 36 club Champions League League, split into 3 x 12's for coefficient purposes, use the criteria we're now following, each team plays one home and one away from each seeded group, total 6 games, top 12 go through, next 8 play off. That should have proved exciting up to match day 6, with 8 match days there's going to be a lot of dead rubbers with the top teams already qualifying, there will be some shenanigans as teams already through rest their players.

England's teams wi be disadvantaged as there's games in January after a busy December schedule and no mid winter break next season. Depending on our CL position in the League format we may have to play a second string in the FA Cup and the League cup will have to be forfeited from match one by playing an out and out EDL team, no point in not doing so, get the EDL Manager to take care of the game as well.
 
I’ll choose not to thanks.

Our record is fucking incredible and as good as any in the history of English football. I’ll celebrate it rather than drag it down.
Same as but it's not feasible from next season, it was an immense achievement to win it 4 times on the spin. Kyle Walkers first ever medal at the age of 27, it meant so much to him, summed up how a lot of us felt, destroying the Tarquins 3-0, never forget that.
 

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