Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

This is the best tactical analysis of where we went wrong that I’ve seen (well, the one that closest fits the main issues I saw too tbh!) -

 
Hello chaps. I've been reading quite a lot of this thread, voyeuristic weirdo that I am.

I decided to register so I could maybe offer a few thoughts from a Chelsea fan that, hopefully, will at least show some empathy towards an online fanbase that seem to be mostly proper football people. Respect.

Item 1: Pep's strategy. This is rightly the headline topic. When my two sons and I saw the starting line-ups just before 7pm we celebrated Ferna not being in the City 11. In boxing terms it seemed that Pep was going to show us zero respect and come out swinging, Rocky Balboa style, from the bell, looking to knock us out. Two early goals and then stick the doormen on would seem to have maybe been his strategy. I won't deny that I felt it was a little disrespectful, but if it had worked he'd have rightly been hailed as a genius. However, and not to sit on the fence, I felt he got it badly wrong. To go with a boxing analogy once again, if I were a City fan I'd have preferred, in a title fight, to cover up and feel my opponent out early on, find my distance, and then step on the gas once I'd got myself settled. Coming out swinging is a high risk strategy because if the knockout blow doesn't land you've basically punched yourself out and will likely get done with some swift counters. It was a big error imho, and gave us a significant advantage.

Item 2: Nerves. If you watch the CL music sequence where the camera pans across both teams, it seemed to me that many of the City lads looked like they were extremely nervous. I think this is totally understandable. City were being talked up as strong favourites, almost expected to win. Pretty much the whole world felt this was the time for City to take it to the next level, having pretty much owned the toughest league on the planet in recent years. That's a huge pressure on a human being. Contrast that with our lot, who only really needed to make top 4 (if we hadn't and needed the CL win we'd have likely been bricking it too). For us it was all gravy, so no shock that we played without nerves compared to your lot. For me this is actually the headline reason why a game between two top sides that was always going to be tight tipped in our favour.

Item 3: The cosmos(!). No team reaching their first CL final in recent years has won. It's actually a part, imho, of what makes the CL worth winning, and is going to taste so f*cking sweet when City win it (and they will, within the next 3 years imho). Noel Gallagher said this week that he didn't want City to coast to a CL title straight after winning their first Prem as it would've seemed too easy, like it was bought. He then said that after ten years City had paid their CL dues. I disagree Noel! Imho you have to get to a final and suffer the abject, unrelenting pain of losing, as we did against Utd in 2008 (at least you didn't have to lose on pens due to a slip from your capo). Only then have you paid your CL dues, and only then will you be ready to come back and win it. Like I said, it will feel 1 million times sweeter for this loss. You're now fully paid up boys :)

Item 4: Luck. There is always luck for the winning team. I felt that the ref slightly favoured us (maybe the bad blood with Pep?). Don't get me wrong, I thought the ref had a decent game and there weren't any super obvious mistakes. But if Anthony Taylor, the f*cking Chelsea hating muppet, had been in charge, you'd have had a pen for Reece's 'chest to arm' thing, and Toni would've likely been sent off for his challenge on Kev. It's all very subjective and I don't offer a definitive view on those two incidents. Just saying that the ref has the subtle power to elevate or squash such moments.

Item 5: Chelsea performance. Chelsea played an almost faultless game. Our defence all made JT level blocks to a man worthy of the huge occasion, without which you'd have scored three at least. Our attack moved intelligently, and if we were as deadly as Phil, Kun, Ilkay etc. in front of goal then we'd have put the game to bed sooner. I'd probably ask to see the post-match Chelsea drug testing if I were you lot :)

Anyway, in the final analysis, the combination of all of the above provided a mountain just a bit too tall to climb this time. It is not, however, because City aren't good enough. They are, and for all the preparations, money, resources etc., sometimes it's the more human things that decide the outcome. This most bitter of pills will not go down easy, but that's how it's meant to be. The benefit will, I guarantee, be felt by the club when you get your next crack, which will be sooner than you think imho.

Peace and all good vibes to you all boys. Football is worthless without significant competitors and obstacles to overcome.
Great post thanks. I think also a big issue was Pep and our team failing to stop Chelsea attempting the same attacking move that eventually lead to the goal - basically a longish ball from defense or keeper to Chilwell who passes quickly to Mount in space who then had simple passing options to play in attackers. This move was tried twice unsuccessfully before it worked for the goal.

Maybe having Fern/Rodri on the field would have helped counter it as they would have been deeper than Gundogan but our right sided players should have seen what was going on and put more pressure on Chilwell in particular.

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on what you expect from Chelsea next season. Do you expect a serious title challenge from them and which players do you think will push on and which may leave?
 
Cheers mate. Once I wrote my post I thought, 'hang on, Taylor actually waved away a very decent pen shout when we played City in the league recently, and Kurt basically tripped Raheem up from behind'. I did comment to my lads that this was first time we'd got anything from that muppet. Conclusion: he does hate City more than us. I was at the 2017 FA Cup final where Taylor overruled his lino to allow an Arsenal Sanchez goal that was both offside AND handball. Turned out to be pivotal as we lost 2-1. Worst English ref bar none, which is quite an accolade considering how many jumped up attention-seeking muggy c*nts we have officiating here :)

Oh, and in the hope of further empathy in terms of Champions League heartache, check out our CL semi 2nd leg vs Barca in 2009 where pundits and the whole of the Spanish media (barring Barca publications of course) felt we should have had FOUR penalties (I personally felt two nailed and two very strong). We went out on the away goals rule due to a late Iniesta strike which made it 1-1 on the night. That was a bitter pill - believed to be the most unfair CL match of all time, and not least because Barca were UEFA's favourite team and it seemed UEFA didn't want an all English final two seasons running. To put this in a context of pain, it was the season after we lost to Utd on pens in our first final. And in case you are wondering, yes, I'm still salty about that one :)
Worst display ever by a ref bent as fuck mate.
 
Hello chaps. I've been reading quite a lot of this thread, voyeuristic weirdo that I am.

I decided to register so I could maybe offer a few thoughts from a Chelsea fan that, hopefully, will at least show some empathy towards an online fanbase that seem to be mostly proper football people. Respect.

Item 1: Pep's strategy. This is rightly the headline topic. When my two sons and I saw the starting line-ups just before 7pm we celebrated Ferna not being in the City 11. In boxing terms it seemed that Pep was going to show us zero respect and come out swinging, Rocky Balboa style, from the bell, looking to knock us out. Two early goals and then stick the doormen on would seem to have maybe been his strategy. I won't deny that I felt it was a little disrespectful, but if it had worked he'd have rightly been hailed as a genius. However, and not to sit on the fence, I felt he got it badly wrong. To go with a boxing analogy once again, if I were a City fan I'd have preferred, in a title fight, to cover up and feel my opponent out early on, find my distance, and then step on the gas once I'd got myself settled. Coming out swinging is a high risk strategy because if the knockout blow doesn't land you've basically punched yourself out and will likely get done with some swift counters. It was a big error imho, and gave us a significant advantage.

Item 2: Nerves. If you watch the CL music sequence where the camera pans across both teams, it seemed to me that many of the City lads looked like they were extremely nervous. I think this is totally understandable. City were being talked up as strong favourites, almost expected to win. Pretty much the whole world felt this was the time for City to take it to the next level, having pretty much owned the toughest league on the planet in recent years. That's a huge pressure on a human being. Contrast that with our lot, who only really needed to make top 4 (if we hadn't and needed the CL win we'd have likely been bricking it too). For us it was all gravy, so no shock that we played without nerves compared to your lot. For me this is actually the headline reason why a game between two top sides that was always going to be tight tipped in our favour.

Item 3: The cosmos(!). No team reaching their first CL final in recent years has won. It's actually a part, imho, of what makes the CL worth winning, and is going to taste so f*cking sweet when City win it (and they will, within the next 3 years imho). Noel Gallagher said this week that he didn't want City to coast to a CL title straight after winning their first Prem as it would've seemed too easy, like it was bought. He then said that after ten years City had paid their CL dues. I disagree Noel! Imho you have to get to a final and suffer the abject, unrelenting pain of losing, as we did against Utd in 2008 (at least you didn't have to lose on pens due to a slip from your capo). Only then have you paid your CL dues, and only then will you be ready to come back and win it. Like I said, it will feel 1 million times sweeter for this loss. You're now fully paid up boys :)

Item 4: Luck. There is always luck for the winning team. I felt that the ref slightly favoured us (maybe the bad blood with Pep?). Don't get me wrong, I thought the ref had a decent game and there weren't any super obvious mistakes. But if Anthony Taylor, the f*cking Chelsea hating muppet, had been in charge, you'd have had a pen for Reece's 'chest to arm' thing, and Toni would've likely been sent off for his challenge on Kev. It's all very subjective and I don't offer a definitive view on those two incidents. Just saying that the ref has the subtle power to elevate or squash such moments.

Item 5: Chelsea performance. Chelsea played an almost faultless game. Our defence all made JT level blocks to a man worthy of the huge occasion, without which you'd have scored three at least. Our attack moved intelligently, and if we were as deadly as Phil, Kun, Ilkay etc. in front of goal then we'd have put the game to bed sooner. I'd probably ask to see the post-match Chelsea drug testing if I were you lot :)

Anyway, in the final analysis, the combination of all of the above provided a mountain just a bit too tall to climb this time. It is not, however, because City aren't good enough. They are, and for all the preparations, money, resources etc., sometimes it's the more human things that decide the outcome. This most bitter of pills will not go down easy, but that's how it's meant to be. The benefit will, I guarantee, be felt by the club when you get your next crack, which will be sooner than you think imho.

Peace and all good vibes to you all boys. Football is worthless without significant competitors and obstacles to overcome.
Excellent post.

For me, the subtle ways the referee favoured Chelsea were those really annoying situations where a player receives the ball with an opponent touch tight and they just fall over. Quite rightly Sterling and a few others did this and got nothing for their trouble, however Chelsea got those decisions.

It’s not much of a moan as I have no complaints about the result. Best team won on the night. Just a shame for us Tommy Tuchel inherited a squad that turned out to be perfectly set up to play against us if organised properly. Showed up Frank Lampard as a manager. Take no joy in saying that as I don’t mind the guy. Prefer him to the German chav.
 
Hello chaps. I've been reading quite a lot of this thread, voyeuristic weirdo that I am.

I decided to register so I could maybe offer a few thoughts from a Chelsea fan that, hopefully, will at least show some empathy towards an online fanbase that seem to be mostly proper football people. Respect.

Item 1: Pep's strategy. This is rightly the headline topic. When my two sons and I saw the starting line-ups just before 7pm we celebrated Ferna not being in the City 11. In boxing terms it seemed that Pep was going to show us zero respect and come out swinging, Rocky Balboa style, from the bell, looking to knock us out. Two early goals and then stick the doormen on would seem to have maybe been his strategy. I won't deny that I felt it was a little disrespectful, but if it had worked he'd have rightly been hailed as a genius. However, and not to sit on the fence, I felt he got it badly wrong. To go with a boxing analogy once again, if I were a City fan I'd have preferred, in a title fight, to cover up and feel my opponent out early on, find my distance, and then step on the gas once I'd got myself settled. Coming out swinging is a high risk strategy because if the knockout blow doesn't land you've basically punched yourself out and will likely get done with some swift counters. It was a big error imho, and gave us a significant advantage.

Item 2: Nerves. If you watch the CL music sequence where the camera pans across both teams, it seemed to me that many of the City lads looked like they were extremely nervous. I think this is totally understandable. City were being talked up as strong favourites, almost expected to win. Pretty much the whole world felt this was the time for City to take it to the next level, having pretty much owned the toughest league on the planet in recent years. That's a huge pressure on a human being. Contrast that with our lot, who only really needed to make top 4 (if we hadn't and needed the CL win we'd have likely been bricking it too). For us it was all gravy, so no shock that we played without nerves compared to your lot. For me this is actually the headline reason why a game between two top sides that was always going to be tight tipped in our favour.

Item 3: The cosmos(!). No team reaching their first CL final in recent years has won. It's actually a part, imho, of what makes the CL worth winning, and is going to taste so f*cking sweet when City win it (and they will, within the next 3 years imho). Noel Gallagher said this week that he didn't want City to coast to a CL title straight after winning their first Prem as it would've seemed too easy, like it was bought. He then said that after ten years City had paid their CL dues. I disagree Noel! Imho you have to get to a final and suffer the abject, unrelenting pain of losing, as we did against Utd in 2008 (at least you didn't have to lose on pens due to a slip from your capo). Only then have you paid your CL dues, and only then will you be ready to come back and win it. Like I said, it will feel 1 million times sweeter for this loss. You're now fully paid up boys :)

Item 4: Luck. There is always luck for the winning team. I felt that the ref slightly favoured us (maybe the bad blood with Pep?). Don't get me wrong, I thought the ref had a decent game and there weren't any super obvious mistakes. But if Anthony Taylor, the f*cking Chelsea hating muppet, had been in charge, you'd have had a pen for Reece's 'chest to arm' thing, and Toni would've likely been sent off for his challenge on Kev. It's all very subjective and I don't offer a definitive view on those two incidents. Just saying that the ref has the subtle power to elevate or squash such moments.

Item 5: Chelsea performance. Chelsea played an almost faultless game. Our defence all made JT level blocks to a man worthy of the huge occasion, without which you'd have scored three at least. Our attack moved intelligently, and if we were as deadly as Phil, Kun, Ilkay etc. in front of goal then we'd have put the game to bed sooner. I'd probably ask to see the post-match Chelsea drug testing if I were you lot :)

Anyway, in the final analysis, the combination of all of the above provided a mountain just a bit too tall to climb this time. It is not, however, because City aren't good enough. They are, and for all the preparations, money, resources etc., sometimes it's the more human things that decide the outcome. This most bitter of pills will not go down easy, but that's how it's meant to be. The benefit will, I guarantee, be felt by the club when you get your next crack, which will be sooner than you think imho.

Peace and all good vibes to you all boys. Football is worthless without significant competitors and obstacles to overcome.
I was talking to a Liverpool fan in our hotel after we beat them in the league cup final. He was telling me his two youngsters were heart broken after Liverpool's defeat and looked at me like I was insane when I told him that their experience would make winning a trophy a billion times sweeter for them. You have to know the bitterness of defeat to really appreciate what winning really means and congrats on your win as you do appreciate what it means, which is more than I can say for at least one scouser.
 
Hello chaps. I've been reading quite a lot of this thread, voyeuristic weirdo that I am.

I decided to register so I could maybe offer a few thoughts from a Chelsea fan that, hopefully, will at least show some empathy towards an online fanbase that seem to be mostly proper football people. Respect.

Item 1: Pep's strategy. This is rightly the headline topic. When my two sons and I saw the starting line-ups just before 7pm we celebrated Ferna not being in the City 11. In boxing terms it seemed that Pep was going to show us zero respect and come out swinging, Rocky Balboa style, from the bell, looking to knock us out. Two early goals and then stick the doormen on would seem to have maybe been his strategy. I won't deny that I felt it was a little disrespectful, but if it had worked he'd have rightly been hailed as a genius. However, and not to sit on the fence, I felt he got it badly wrong. To go with a boxing analogy once again, if I were a City fan I'd have preferred, in a title fight, to cover up and feel my opponent out early on, find my distance, and then step on the gas once I'd got myself settled. Coming out swinging is a high risk strategy because if the knockout blow doesn't land you've basically punched yourself out and will likely get done with some swift counters. It was a big error imho, and gave us a significant advantage.

Item 2: Nerves. If you watch the CL music sequence where the camera pans across both teams, it seemed to me that many of the City lads looked like they were extremely nervous. I think this is totally understandable. City were being talked up as strong favourites, almost expected to win. Pretty much the whole world felt this was the time for City to take it to the next level, having pretty much owned the toughest league on the planet in recent years. That's a huge pressure on a human being. Contrast that with our lot, who only really needed to make top 4 (if we hadn't and needed the CL win we'd have likely been bricking it too). For us it was all gravy, so no shock that we played without nerves compared to your lot. For me this is actually the headline reason why a game between two top sides that was always going to be tight tipped in our favour.

Item 3: The cosmos(!). No team reaching their first CL final in recent years has won. It's actually a part, imho, of what makes the CL worth winning, and is going to taste so f*cking sweet when City win it (and they will, within the next 3 years imho). Noel Gallagher said this week that he didn't want City to coast to a CL title straight after winning their first Prem as it would've seemed too easy, like it was bought. He then said that after ten years City had paid their CL dues. I disagree Noel! Imho you have to get to a final and suffer the abject, unrelenting pain of losing, as we did against Utd in 2008 (at least you didn't have to lose on pens due to a slip from your capo). Only then have you paid your CL dues, and only then will you be ready to come back and win it. Like I said, it will feel 1 million times sweeter for this loss. You're now fully paid up boys :)

Item 4: Luck. There is always luck for the winning team. I felt that the ref slightly favoured us (maybe the bad blood with Pep?). Don't get me wrong, I thought the ref had a decent game and there weren't any super obvious mistakes. But if Anthony Taylor, the f*cking Chelsea hating muppet, had been in charge, you'd have had a pen for Reece's 'chest to arm' thing, and Toni would've likely been sent off for his challenge on Kev. It's all very subjective and I don't offer a definitive view on those two incidents. Just saying that the ref has the subtle power to elevate or squash such moments.

Item 5: Chelsea performance. Chelsea played an almost faultless game. Our defence all made JT level blocks to a man worthy of the huge occasion, without which you'd have scored three at least. Our attack moved intelligently, and if we were as deadly as Phil, Kun, Ilkay etc. in front of goal then we'd have put the game to bed sooner. I'd probably ask to see the post-match Chelsea drug testing if I were you lot :)

Anyway, in the final analysis, the combination of all of the above provided a mountain just a bit too tall to climb this time. It is not, however, because City aren't good enough. They are, and for all the preparations, money, resources etc., sometimes it's the more human things that decide the outcome. This most bitter of pills will not go down easy, but that's how it's meant to be. The benefit will, I guarantee, be felt by the club when you get your next crack, which will be sooner than you think imho.

Peace and all good vibes to you all boys. Football is worthless without significant competitors and obstacles to overcome.
We never turned up on the day, the better team won, not going to criticise Pep at all don't think he needs to justify to anybody considering his achievements, if we had been 3 up in 20 minutes everyone would be raving how much of a masterstroke it was but it wasn't, with all attacking options on the field we struggled to create anything, Chelsea won every 2nd ball and Kante was everywhere, spoke to Chelsea fans at airport on way back and were really gracious in victory, explained they understood how we're feeling and wished us well absolutely no doubt Chelsea will be title contenders next season and absolutely in no doubt Pep is the man but whenever we do lose everybody seems to think there a qualified coach and seem to forget Alan Ball, Frank Clark & Stuart Pearce.
 
We never turned up on the day, the better team won, not going to criticise Pep at all don't think he needs to justify to anybody considering his achievements, if we had been 3 up in 20 minutes everyone would be raving how much of a masterstroke it was but it wasn't, with all attacking options on the field we struggled to create anything, Chelsea won every 2nd ball and Kante was everywhere, spoke to Chelsea fans at airport on way back and were really gracious in victory, explained they understood how we're feeling and wished us well absolutely no doubt Chelsea will be title contenders next season and absolutely in no doubt Pep is the man but whenever we do lose everybody seems to think there a qualified coach and seem to forget Alan Ball, Frank Clark & Stuart Pearce.
No doubt pep is the man..however, in the UCL, once a year, he makes these changes and we never go 3 up and therefore never get to say hes a genius. You can criticise him and still think there's no one better for the job. Its like having a girlfriend who's got terrible taste in music. You still think she's great, except when she starts fucking with the car stereo.
 
Bad
Watching that game again will refresh the feeling of nausea
I'm liking this games result to my recent Astra Zeneka vaccine, took me a few days to get over the effects.
Im worried it could turn into something more serious, even similar to long covid.
My missus has noticed it's effect on me. And assured me that Pep will not do it again.
Ive thought about future though and if we get to the next huge game in the cl we will all be suffering from anxiety waiting for the team selection and will Sterling feature.
I had my second AZ jab on Thursday morning. That must be why I felt so rough leaving the stadium on Saturday night.
 
The only crumb I can take is that if (an enormous IF) we win it next year (Scouse speak) we do so as it should be. As league champions this season.
Not much I know.
"It's a joke if a team wins it without entering as reigning champions." - So said the gibbering hyenas of the media circus when the CL was born.
Fast forward a few years to 1999 or 2005 (and 2021) and they all went very quiet on the subject.
 
Thanks for the warm welcome lads. This is probably the best club forum I've seen, both in terms of numbers of members and general level of sanity.

I will defo come back from time to time to say hello, although will be careful not to outstay my welcome, being a Chav c*nt :)

I do think our two clubs have more in common with each other than with the other big English clubs. The way we are run, the unity within the club, and, very importantly, the colour!

Anthony Taylor: Seems I inadvertently picked the worst ref comparison it's possible to pick on a City forum. It all makes sense now - Taylor is a Utd fan, he takes great joy in fucking over Chelsea, but ultimate joy in fucking over City. Apologies lads. Should've done my homework. I just hate Anthony Taylor.

City 1-3 Us, 2016 Prem: I remember that game well, although I must admit I didn't recall who the ref was. As above, it all makes sense now. David Luiz got away with murder, probably shouldn't have been on the pitch at the end, and probably wishes he wasn't on the pitch at the end due to Aguero's slightly mistimed tackle, which resulted in a fair bit of handbags at the end. To say we rode our luck that day might just be the understatement of the year. City missed a hat-full, with Kev hitting the bar from from six yards out. Gary Cahill opened the scoring with one of the most creative OGs you'll see before we did, tbf, score three very decent counter attacking goals. It was, in the final analysis, daylight robbery at the Etihad.

Pep: He's the best manager of his generation. He's a trailblazer, a formula maker. As such he sometimes gets it wrong, but I'd say those times are far outweighed by the times he not only gets it right, but progresses the tactical aspects of the game to an extent that he's copied by everyone. I personally love him, and am aware that our own TT is the most 'Guardiolista' of the current German managers. TT has been a Pep fanboy for years, studying every Barca game, and probably every City game too. Pep will win the CL with City imho.
 
Didn’t want to say this, as it will have been said over a thousand times, but here goes -we threw it away, I think Chelsea would have beaten us with Ferna playing and Sterling not anyway, but, the ONE thing I sthought before this match was concerning these two players, Sterling out and Ferna in - defo. We were beaten before we walked on the pitch, I know what I think doesn’t matter, but, I’ve got it off my chest - Pep is a total genius, but, does tinker way too much - Gundogan in CDM?
and doing THAT on the clubs biggest ever match - genius can sometimes be madness...and NO apology from him? only smiles, and my team were great...breathtaking arrogance, well thats me sent to Siberia now.
 
Agree. It would be nice to see a better view.
Thanks for the warm welcome lads. This is probably the best club forum I've seen, both in terms of numbers of members and general level of sanity.

I will defo come back from time to time to say hello, although will be careful not to outstay my welcome, being a Chav c*nt :)

I do think our two clubs have more in common with each other than with the other big English clubs. The way we are run, the unity within the club, and, very importantly, the colour!

Anthony Taylor: Seems I inadvertently picked the worst ref comparison it's possible to pick on a City forum. It all makes sense now - Taylor is a Utd fan, he takes great joy in fucking over Chelsea, but ultimate joy in fucking over City. Apologies lads. Should've done my homework. I just hate Anthony Taylor.

City 1-3 Us, 2016 Prem: I remember that game well, although I must admit I didn't recall who the ref was. As above, it all makes sense now. David Luiz got away with murder, probably shouldn't have been on the pitch at the end, and probably wishes he wasn't on the pitch at the end due to Aguero's slightly mistimed tackle, which resulted in a fair bit of handbags at the end. To say we rode our luck that day might just be the understatement of the year. City missed a hat-full, with Kev hitting the bar from from six yards out. Gary Cahill opened the scoring with one of the most creative OGs you'll see before we did, tbf, score three very decent counter attacking goals. It was, in the final analysis, daylight robbery at the Etihad.

Pep: He's the best manager of his generation. He's a trailblazer, a formula maker. As such he sometimes gets it wrong, but I'd say those times are far outweighed by the times he not only gets it right, but progresses the tactical aspects of the game to an extent that he's copied by everyone. I personally love him, and am aware that our own TT is the most 'Guardiolista' of the current German managers. TT has been a Pep fanboy for years, studying every Barca game, and probably every City game too. Pep will win the CL with City imho.
Sorry if someone already mentioned this, but just think Ash, if it wasn’t for a slip from JT, and the width of a post you would have 3 titles now and the rags 2
 
Cheers James.

In my opinion the Prem just gets more and more competitive each season. If Utd recruit well you have to say they can challenge, and City are the club everyone else has to fight with every sinew to get anywhere close to. Over 38 games it's very difficult to beat Pep.

So, what I hope for is that we make a fight for the title, and that the margins of victory, whoever prevails, will be tight. Wouldn't it be great to see the title decided on the last day?!

As for what I expect, boringly I'd say top 4 minimum. I'm a realist.

As for our players, it's an exciting time as we have so many good young players. Sadly I think Tammy will leave, and should leave in order to progress his career. Timo's contribution is already undervalued. When you look at his stats, his goal involvement and the team's win percentage when he plays, if he starts to score a few more he will be rightly acknowledged for the quality player he already is.
 
Haha, now that would be a little greedy! And also, we'd have dipped out of the very important part of the process which is the pain of defeat on that most prestigious of stages. Easy to say now, but I wouldn't change it.

I'm just happy that we've won it again in a way where detractors can't say we didn't deserve it. In 2012 we got dominated for most of the final by Bayern. In the semi 2nd leg we held out at Barca with ten men, and Messi missed a pen. Many, including myself, felt the win that year was as much about cosmic forces and luck as anything else. It's therefore nice to think that we might now be considered legit CL.
 

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