Champions League Games 5/6 March

Pell said:
Without VAR, it would not have made a footnote in the match report, let alone be the game defining moment. I agree with football is fixed:

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Great tweet. Refereeing should have a higher accountability in football than what it is now. What it is now is simply refs making all the controversial decisions, game ends and everyone moves on but the people affected by these decisions. What's worse now is them able to hide and put all the blame on VAR.
 
citytilllidie said:
One big problem with this apparently new, and what on the face of it looks unfair stance on what constitutes a deliberate handball, is that these referees have been instructed to make decisions on a new ruling that nobody else in the football world knows anything about.

What corruption?
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This is definitely a huge issue. So who did they tell about this rule "interpretation" (let's be honest this is absolutely a rule change) before implementing it? Were players and managers made aware before they went on pitches at the start of this round that this is how handball would be judged? It's interesting what Clattenburg says there, "This would never be given as a penalty in the Premier League, but it was given in the Champions League because of UEFA's recent instruction to referees, which came about after Manchester City conceded a similar one at Schalke last month.

Now that might just be him not being careful about the detail of language he is using but that reads to me like the rule was changed at the point Otamendi's "handball" was being judged. I would usually think that couldn't possibly be the case but I am not aware of anyone else realising that the handball rule had changed prior to that pen being given against us. If it is the case and nobody knew and then the ball hits Ota's arm while he's trying to get it out of the way, a pen is given that nobody (apart from Walton) can understand and suddenly we are effectively informed that a rule change that is supposedly coming in next season was actually brought forward specifically to our match with Schalke then that fucking stinks. Was this new rule even clarified after our match v Schalke or do we just need to take the utter robbery we saw last night as a tacit clarification?
 
Pretty certain PSG had 2 penalty appeals, both weren't by the way but who decides what can be reviewed?

The problem with have is every 50/50 which isn't clear and obvious will be reviewed for certain teams but not for others.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
I’m going to say three things. Firstly I genuinely don’t think it would have occurred to me to be screaming for a pen if that had been us and I was at that match last night.
Secondly whilst it was a horrific decision v Sterling, he had one look at full speed and anyone can mistake, I suppose. Surely the whole point of VAR is to be able to clear up shit decisions like that, not to use replays to overturn a correct, innocuous call and create a bad decision from nowhere. If you’d asked me a couple of years ago I would have said VAR had to come in because there were too many contentious decisions deciding games, I never thought the ****s would use it to actively create contentious decisions from nowhere! This smacks of UEFA thinking of FFP to stop clubs going bankrupt and then rapidly turning it into a tool for something entirely different. Surely nobody thought the intention of VAR was going to be to actively cause confusion and controversy where there was none?
Thirdly, despite kind of defending clattenburg there over the sterling decision, he is definitely a twat.
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Agree with a lot of that to be fair but totally disagree with your opinion on the Clattenburg/Sterling incident. My main issue is that did last night's decision equate to a clear and obvious error as those are the ones that VAR is supposed to overturn. Now if a new directive has been given to refs by UEFA to always give a penalty in those situations then I can understand why he had to give a pen but I'd like to know if this directive has been communicated to the players, managers, and also the media at some point in the form of a statement or is it a behind closed doors thing? If it's the former then again, fair enough, but if it's the latter then that opens it up to all kinds of manipulation. Personally, I thought we were much harder done by against Schalke the other week as the ref didn't even have access to a replay so I'm struggling to see how he could overturn that one. Surely if one part of the process isn't functioning then it stays with the on-field ref?

I'm still largely in favour of VAR but only if it's implemented correctly. I think over the course of a full Premier League season we'd benefit more often than not. Take the incident against Chelsea a couple of seasons ago for example when Wythenshawe's one and only Altrincham fan was about to blow up for a foul by David Luiz on Aguero when he was clean through then mysteriously allowed play to go on to the astonishment of everybody. If VAR was in existence, they'd find it impossible to not instruct Taylor to give a foul and a red card even if it was Mike Riley and Peter Walton in charge of the VAR side of things.
 
Starting to look like the Premier league will have half the semi-finalists, if the Scum can win in Paris then the Bus Wreckers should be able to do the same in Germany.

UEFA will then have to make certain we are all drawn against each other with their two darlings kept apart.

Quarter finals:
  • Scum v Spurs
  • Scousers v MCFC
  • Porto v Barcelona
  • Ajax v A. Madrid
 
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