Channel deaths | Four confirmed dead after migrant boat tragically capsizes (p 41)

Churchlawtonblue said:
This tradgedy is entirely the French authorities fault, The migrants leave their shores, where the UK has no juristriction. And the French are happy to let these people cross as they arnt in their country. Plenty of film footage of Gendarmes watching people leave France. They could also easily stop people buying these big dingies and could easily catch the smuggling gangs with easy undercover police operation. But they arnt interested.
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It’s not entirely on them, we do have to acknowledge that there’s a lot of people that want to apply for asylum in the U.K. that have been given no viable route of getting here. That needs to be resolved by both actions from the French government (stopping more of the boats) but also the U.K. by giving a viable way for people to claim aslyum here whilst not in the U.K. or means of a safer passage.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Why? You would turn away people who are being persecuted or have been bombed out of their homes etc??
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Plenty of British people were bombed out of their homes in WW2. They didn’t hotfoot to Switzerland. We should not be taking anyone who comes from the safe haven of mainland Europe. The asylum laws need a major update to prevent these tragedies. They weren’t drawn up when this people smuggling crime was prevalent. It’s the only way.
 
hilts said:
I don't know the answer but is there any legal reason why the French have to stop people getting in a dinghy?

There argument could be we are dealing with them when they decide to stay in the country. Are they obliged to stop them leaving?

The simple fact is neither country wants them in any large numbers. There is nothing they have to do to stop them leaving and there is nothing we have to do to go out and grab them.
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Well if that's the case why if the French minister down at the beach tonight and why is Boris holding an important meeting about it. Legally probably not, but morally yes. The worlds a smaller place these days with everyone havening a mobile phone and wanting better lives for themselves.
 
bluethrunthru said:
where do they originate? None are white Belgian Christians. Personally I have no problem with anyone coming here and we should be facilitating their arrival and helping them leave if they don't like it. Its called being civilised.
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There really isn't a lot to be said for this comment other than... Are you taking the piss pal :)
 
bluethrunthru said:
No none. The world would be a better place if all were to reciprocate
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No other country on Earth operates a system you favour, none.

To suggest we should is simply not feasible, politically or logistically, regardless of the government of the day.

RIP all those who have sadly died today, a terrible human tragedy.
 
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