Mr Ed (The Stables)
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Forget the penalties etc the one big decision that the ref got wrong was Suarez should have been booked for diving. That would have entailed him been sent off. The ref was poor with that decision.
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Cheating Refs
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OK, by your logic...Danielmanc said:If you think the ref was responsible for the defeat today then fair do's - but a bit delusional
The referee gets the decisions correct, we still lose the game?
Danielmanc
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BigOscar said:No, it really isn't. To say the ref was solely responsible would be delusional, as would saying Kompany's mistakes were, but to suggest that both of those things made a massive impact on the game in entirely rational.Danielmanc said:If you think the ref was responsible for the defeat today then fair do's - but a bit delusional
Bit of ref - bit of Kompany - same result mate !
Hahadronefromsector7g said:Terrible thing to sayKippaxstreetheadache said:Knew beyond all doubt that he was going to fuck us after he booked Garcia for a challenge in which he won the ball fairly in the first half.
Genuinely hope he's the sole fatality in a horrible car accident tonight, well maybe make an exception for Tyler, head on collision between the two please.
Cars will be damaged
Dubai Blue
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There was no excuse whatsoever for not sending Suarez off. That would undoubtedly have made a difference. Wholly responsible? Maybe not, but he had a huge hand in it, the cheating bastard.Danielmanc said:If you think the ref was responsible for the defeat today then fair do's - but a bit delusional
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Danielmanc said:If you think the ref was responsible for the defeat today then fair do's - but a bit delusional
The ref was not responsible for the defeat today.
What the ref WAS responsible for is not applying the law.
Suarez, on a yellow, dived. It was as clear a yellow for diving as you could expect to see.
I don't know what would have happened if Suarez had been sent off, as he should have been. But they would have been playing for 35 minutes with 10 men. We were cheated out of having the opportunity of finding out.
Against Bayern, we got beaten. Against Chelsea, we got beaten. Against wigan, we got beaten.
I don't feel beaten today, I feel cheated.
kev20971
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Yes not a disallowed goal,whistle went clearly before he carried on and kicked the ball into the net, but we've never heard the end of it, will we get "City should of had a clear penalty in the last minutes" for the next couple of months, or will it just get brushed under the carpet in the next couple of days ?Barcon said:Danielmanc said:Barcon said:Bullshit. I expect better from a Blue.
True though - they had a goal declared offside that was onside - delude yourself all you want mate but the fact is that refs make mistakes - sometimes it goes for us and sometimes it's against us. You can 'expect better' all you want but it's still true
They didn't have a goal declared offside at all. They had a player flagged for offside. The whistle went, our players stopped playing, sterling kicked the ball in the back of the net. If the whistle hadn't gone before the ball went in the net you might have a point.
Bill
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debate it all you like the fact to a man city fans were worried when clattenburg got the gig tells you everything.
blue12
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Clattenberg awarded 3 pens to Liverpool at the swamp and none were really any clearer than the ones he missed today ,he has previous with Liverpool and should never have got the game today ...fully justifiable me being concerned about him being appointed.
By the way the worst decision was not to give Suarez a second yellow for that ridiculous dive , he's seen it then given a free kick so why has he not sent him off ?
By the way the worst decision was not to give Suarez a second yellow for that ridiculous dive , he's seen it then given a free kick so why has he not sent him off ?
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blue12 said:Clattenberg awarded 3 pens to Liverpool at the swamp and none were really any clearer than the ones he missed today ,he has previous with Liverpool and should never have got the game today ...fully justifiable me being concerned about him being appointed.
By the way the worst decision was not to give Suarez a second yellow for that ridiculous dive , he's seen it then given a free kick so why has he not sent him off ?
Betting.
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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Dubai Blue said:There was no excuse whatsoever for not sending Suarez off. That would undoubtedly have made a difference. Wholly responsible? Maybe not, but he had a huge hand in it, the cheating bastard.Danielmanc said:If you think the ref was responsible for the defeat today then fair do's - but a bit delusional
The decisions NOT taken were the crucial ones. Three giveable penalties, a mandatory yellow card for diving and Suarez would miss a game. It affects Liverpool directly. We play a substantial part of the match against ten and their preparation for the next fixture is undermined. It throws more uncertainty into the title run-in, and disadvantages the Dippers. He's given them one of the most obvious leg-ups a team could wish for. He's not gifted them a pen, he's not over-ruled a lino offside but he has materially altered the course of a game! He is responsible for a dereliction of whistling duty. Unfortunately we have idiots like Tyler who think he did a good job.
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Suarez should have walked and missed the next game. Not even up for debate.
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Of course his decisions affected the result,don't be so fuckin naive !Danielmanc said:If you think the ref was responsible for the defeat today then fair do's - but a bit delusional
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Blumers Bloomers said:Suarez should have walked and missed the next game. Not even up for debate.
That was the mistake for me.
The first penalty shout for me was very debatable. Dzeko made a right dogs bollocks of making that look like a foul.
The handball, nobody appealed for and clearly easier to see on tv. Didn't see the other one as having a piss!
They could have had one too.
Gordyola
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The ref is there to ensure fairness and apply the laws and punishments in a consistent manner. Some decisions are subjective and based on opinion What modern refs do is decide if a foul in the box is worthy of a pen even though this is not in their remit, it is clear what Clattenburg did today especially the Dzeko decision However, there is clear instruction that a player who is simulating should be booked and the fact he gave a free kick against Suarez means he HAS to book him. Given that he was also guilty of numerous dives and appeals for fouls not given and showed decent following means there is an even stronger case to book him Clattenburg didn't do his job and he favoured Liverpool everytime too much of a coincidence in my book
Bill
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Blumers Bloomers said:Suarez should have walked and missed the next game. Not even up for debate.
would never be allowed in a million years. clattenburg would not get another prem game all season.
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I hate to say it but we need cheat more. How do you think Suarez or Sturbridge would have reacted to Sakho challenge on dzeko? They would have embellished the contact then hounded the ref good chance they would have had a peno.Millwallawayveteran1988 said:Blumers Bloomers said:Suarez should have walked and missed the next game. Not even up for debate.
That was the mistake for me.
The first penalty shout for me was very debatable. Dzeko made a right dogs bollocks of making that look like a foul.
The handball, nobody appealed for and clearly easier to see on tv. Didn't see the other one as having a piss!
They could have had one too.
All the top teams do it well apart from us. The moral way is to win through better play and good manners. Fuck that. Look at all the successful teams, rags last year, Barcelona, Real Madrid, bayern, they all fucking dive and embellish and cheat. We will win nothing of note with the good guy attitude.
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blightee said:who was the **** ref who sent Bellamy off for a second yellow "dive" even though he was fouled?
He's only done 3 (three) Everton games since 2007 after he screwed them against...
southstander93
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super_city_si said:I hate to say it but we need cheat more. How do you think Suarez or Sturbridge would have reacted to Sakho challenge on dzeko? They would have embellished the contact then hounded the ref good chance they would have had a peno.Millwallawayveteran1988 said:Blumers Bloomers said:Suarez should have walked and missed the next game. Not even up for debate.
That was the mistake for me.
The first penalty shout for me was very debatable. Dzeko made a right dogs bollocks of making that look like a foul.
The handball, nobody appealed for and clearly easier to see on tv. Didn't see the other one as having a piss!
They could have had one too.
All the top teams do it well apart from us. The moral way is to win through better play and good manners. Fuck that. Look at all the successful teams, rags last year, Barcelona, Real Madrid, bayern, they all fucking dive and embellish and cheat. We will win nothing of note with the good guy attitude.
Sorry mate but I couldn't disagree more. There is a lot more to football than trophies and we as blues know that more than most. Don't care how ''small time'' this is but I could stand to see City go years without a trophy but I couldn't stand to see us cheat our way to a title like Suarez is trying to do.