Chelsea 2017/2018

[waspish]

If you're lucky, we'll line up with Azpi, Cahill and Rudiger.

Hopefully we line up with Azpi, Christensen and Rudiger. I actually think Christennsen, despite only being 21, is far more composed and mature in his play than either one of Luiz and Cahill.

I thin Luiz is a big miss think he has been your best defender this season.

 

[Vialli98]

It's pretty much this - total bullshit.

Ref's make mistakes. Over long stretches, calls even out. Refs do not favor any particular side in the P/L.

The wrath of this forum will be on your pretty soon with opinions like that :)

 

[Vialli98]

I thin Luiz is a big miss think he has been your best defender this season.

Azpi has been our best defender IMO: I'd put Luiz behind Christensen even thh, but that's probably too radical and hyping a kid beyond what he deserves, but that's where it's at for me at the moment.

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

The wrath of this forum will be on your pretty soon with opinions like that :)

The small but vocal minority that believe in conspiracy theories will no doubt voice dissent.

 

[Metalartin]

Is everyone except City getting favours from refs? It seems like you guys accuse every big team of this.

I think most believe it's not a matter of doing other teams favours but more a fact of hindering City or derailing them if they can, why would they do this? Either they really are bent(United in the high-towers of the FA influencing PIGMOL) or maybe they really are influenced by the media despite saying they aren't and the media ARE anti City by and large(Chelsea fans used to cry foul at their treatment in the media before City became the whipping boys).

Example1: Walker looks to be settling in well and improving game by game, bizarrely sent off for a phantom second yellow card foul(no foul at all is seen on the replay yet an official on the sideline makes the call into the ref's earpiece)... nothing is said, no fuss made in the media despite them admitting he got it wrong.

Example2: Sterling scoring vital goals that earned us points before our form picked up in front of goal and he's then sent off after securing three points for us despite not breaching any rules during his celebrations. Again the media admit this was the wrong call but less criticism for the ref than Jon Moss got for his correct decision to show Mane a red card, ironically Raheem missed that very game which he'd have been itching to start in for a suspension he shouldn't have been serving.

As someone pointed out it could be that refs just make mistakes, the problem I have with his assessment is it does not even out if the mistakes against us are rather too conveniently(if someone were of an anti-city mindset) often in the big games(Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal) because if it's a top of the table clash it could effectively be mistakes by the refs costing us 6 points rather than 2 or 3 that the bigger teams occasionally drop against smaller clubs throughout a season.

There were mistakes we benefited from against Watford(2 offsides, 1 so marginal that you'd have to give the benefit of doubt to the attacker and a slightly soft pen but still a pen) but that's in a game we were playing so well in the goals were coming, it was only going to be a City win.

No disrespect to Watford but I'm talking the teams we expect to be in the top 6 come May that we have one unquestionably bad decision in our favour that changes the game. How often do you see that? Very rarely are there stonewall penalties ignored when the opposition was in on goal, red cards wrongly awarded or missed when they should have been given.

What annoys me is the way the opposition fans react to calls not even nearly on the same level as what City fans have witnessed like a huge slap to the face from the FA and PIGMOL themselves courtesy of David Gill. Last season the rags thought Bravo should have gone despite getting a foot on the ball before catching Rooney on the follow through("he got the ball" is all they would have cried if the shoe was on the other foot), Arsenal fans thought Sané was offside for his goal against them(another tight call that you can forgive when it's gone against your team once you cool down with "benefit of the doubt given to the attacker" in mind, we outplayed them in that game and were good for it) and Spurs fans thought Loris making a mess of trying to clear the ball and hitting it square at Sané's midriff when he had no time to react/move his hand from such a short distance(basically the ball was going to be his anyway as it was aimed at his midriff from close range). None of those were anywhere near as bad as the decisions that didn't go City's way that should have in the big games, some of them are in fact the correct calls after all.

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

I think most believe it's not a matter of doing other teams favours but more a fact of hindering City or derailing them if they can, why would they do this? Either they really are bent(United in the high-towers of the FA influencing PIGMOL) or maybe they really are influenced by the media despite saying they aren't and the media ARE anti City by and large(Chelsea fans used to cry foul at their treatment in the media before City became the whipping boys).

Counter example 1 - Aguero offsides at Watford (or if you believe not, easily close enough to have been called) - not called

Counter example 2 - Jesus offsides at Watford (or if you belive not, easily close enough to have been called) - not called

Counter example 3 - Mane shown red (which I thought was clear cut but is about 50/50 among pundits) - could easily have been a yellow

Etc., etc.

Calls even out in the long run - there's no bias against City.

 

[squirtyflower]

Counter example 1 - Aguero offsides at Watford (or if you believe not, easily close enough to have been called) - not called

Counter example 2 - Jesus offsides at Watford (or if you belive not, easily close enough to have been called) - not called

Counter example 3 - Mane shown red (which I thought was clear cut but is about 50/50 among pundits) - could easily have been a yellow

Etc., etc.

Calls even out in the long run - there's no bias against City.

You're wrong
Counter argument to end all, Taylor from Manchester being allowed to ref either team with Manchester in its name.

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

You're wrong
Counter argument to end all, Taylor from Manchester being allowed to ref either team with Manchester in its name.

You've got me there!

What's you're take on Chem Trails? - always disbelieved until now - but your valuable insight has me wondering.

 

[squirtyflower]

You've got me there!

What's you're take on Chem Trails? - always disbelieved until now - but your valuable insight has me wondering.

Sarcasm, the lowest form of wit

 

[Metalartin]

Counter example 1 - Aguero offsides at Watford (or if you believe not, easily close enough to have been called) - not called

Counter example 2 - Jesus offsides at Watford (or if you belive not, easily close enough to have been called) - not called

Counter example 3 - Mane shown red (which I thought was clear cut but is about 50/50 among pundits) - could easily have been a yellow

Etc., etc.

Calls even out in the long run - there's no bias against City.

No read the whole post... counter denied ;)... already told you why I'm not buying into any of that... we were going to win that game anyway even the press were amazed at the performance moreso than the scoreline(you also missed out a slightly soft penalty... but a penalty none the less... aside from the Jesus offside which should have been seen these aren't indefensible errors and they happened in the same game where we were always getting 3 points).

The Mane incident was a red card... in no uncertain terms in ANY ERA, could have been a yellow counter denied.

Come back when you've read it all again with something credible.