Chelsea 2017/2018

Metalartin said:
No read the whole post... counter denied... already told you why that's not an acceptable counter... we were going to win that game anyway even the press were amazed at the performance moreso than the scoreline(you also missed out a slightly soft penalty... but a penalty none the less... these aren't indefensible errors aside from the Jesus goal and they happened in the same game where we were always getting 3 points). Mane incident was a red card... in no uncertain terms in ANY ERA, could have been a yellow counter denied.

Come back when you've read it all again with something credible.
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"No read the whole post" - obviously. Anyone disagreeing with you sparks an emotional response and you stop listening/reading.

So basically it's this - any error on behalf of City is no evidence against a conspiracy against City, either knowingly or as a result of subconscious bias.

Well then, if that's your premise, your position is unassailable.

But really...

Why not take an unbiased view?

Actually tally up questionable calls for/against City over, say the last 5 years. Do the same for other sides.

Does the plus/minus for City lie beyond 3 or 4 standard deviations from what be expected by pure chance?

If so, you've got a great, scientific argument that you're in the right.

Meanwhile, you've got no basis whatsoever.
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Leveling claims of persistent bias against City or any other P/L side is a huge, huge claim.

And huge claims demand proof. Such as the proof - should it exist - evident after taking on a scientific analysis as outlined above.

And this is important.

Otherwise, how on earth are we to decide what's actually going on in our lives - is the government out to get us - is there a big conspiracy against my race/religion/ethnicity/etc.?

Anyone can voice an unsubstantiated, emotional argument - but if you make big claims, back it up with scientific proof.

So far, I've seen zero proof from the anti-City conspiracy theorists.
 
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CityInWashingtonState said:
+1

Chelsea pretty much sat on their laurels in the transfer window - they did not improve their squad at all - and IMO are a bit worse this year.

Meanwhile, our squad is massively better. We should win at Chelsea - a draw is OK but I expect a win.

As for stopping Aguero - let's say that Aguero doesn't score. They then also have to stop Sane, Sterling, Jesus, KDB, Gundogan, etc., etc. - our attack this year comes from so many players that it's nearly impossible to stop.
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Would that be the same Christianson that was part of a Gladbach defence that Kun smashed a hatrick against last season?
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
Touche - but I'm drunk - best I could come up with on the nonce :-)

But if you want a reasoned argument, read my post above.
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squirtyflower said:
It is far from reasonable to suggest three or four standard deviations from the norm is the standard to use for unusual and yet say things even themselves out.
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Hardly so.

If you think that there's a conspiracy against us, prove it. Hell, you won't even get 1 standard deviation from normal expectation IMO.

And wonder of wonders - just how on earth did those conspiring cheaters allow us to win the P/L title twice in recent years? Maybe they're incompetent cheaters?

And when we win the league this year? What then?

Save up your conspiracy ammunition for next year?
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
Hardly so.

If you think that there's a conspiracy against us, prove it. Hell, you won't even get 1 standard deviation from normal expectation IMO.

And wonder of wonders - just how on earth did those conspiring cheaters allow us to win the P/L title twice in recent years? Maybe they're incompetent cheaters?

And when we win the league this year? What then?

Save up your conspiracy ammunition for next year?
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I think you've lost the plot mate
 
squirtyflower said:
I think you've lost the plot mate
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Actually you have.

Read my post RE - how are we to decide what's going on?

If you insist that there's bias against City - well, that's a huge claim.

Let's say you're right. And that it's provable.

Are you saying now that FIFA the FA and hell any other interested body are all corrupt/part of the conspiracy?

So basically, everyone is out to get City?

Sounds more like a paranoid delusional position to me - everyone is out to get me/City - rather than rational thought.

Again - the burden of proof is on you - think that there's a conspiracy against City - prove it.

If you do so, then the "conspiracy" will be eliminated.
 
squirtyflower said:
Yawn

Fifa corrupt? Ridiculous
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So witty.

Fifa is indeed corrupt at many levels.

Again - the burden of proof for sustained, systematic bias against City is on you.

It seems so obvious to you that you're right - so prove it.

Hell, it should be simple to do given the amount of cheating against City you seem to suppose.
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
So witty.

Fifa is indeed corrupt at many levels.

Again - the burden of proof for sustained, systematic bias against City is on you.

It seems so obvious to you that you're right - so prove it.

Hell, it should be simple to do given the amount of cheating against City you seem to suppose.
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I don't have to prove anything that I see with my own eyes at the match.
Next time you're over you may see it for yourself, in the mean time good day.
 
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