Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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Vialli98 said:
Chelsea will always attract top managers. We have been chopping and changing managers for 20 years. This isn't new. Managers still fall over themselves for a chance to manage Chelsea, unless his name is Pep.

It's obviously not Chelsea because there's something uniquely special about Chelsea that is the reason for this - it's because we are apart of a small group of a clubs at the top of European football who can offer talented players, spending money in the window and a reasonable chance to win trophies plus they get a huge pay off if it doesn't work out.

As long as that remains true, most top managers will be interested in coming to Chelsea. Nagelsmann for example, would be in high demand if he waits until the summer when the PSG and Real Madrid jobs become available, but he's currently putting a lot of effort into convincing Chelsea to pick him.
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I completely agree with everything you have typed.
 
Vialli98 said:
Chelsea will always attract top managers. We have been chopping and changing managers for 20 years. This isn't new. Managers still fall over themselves for a chance to manage Chelsea,
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3 months work and a paid holiday for the rest of their multi year contract, who wouldn't?
 
aguero93:20 said:
3 months work and a paid holiday for the rest of their multi year contract, who wouldn't?
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Pep wouldn't. He was interested in coming here, was in touch with Marina and Abramovich during his sabbatical year but then saw how we gave a 4 year deal to RDM after winning the CL and then sacked him 4 months later and changed his mind and joined Bayern instead.
 
Vialli98 said:
Pep wouldn't. He was interested in coming here, was in touch with Marina and Abramovich during his sabbatical year but then saw how we gave a 4 year deal to RDM after winning the CL and then sacked him 4 months later and changed his mind and joined Bayern instead.
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Bar Guardiola. Firstly he's insane and secondly he quite literally had and has his pick of world clubs.
 
Machiavelli said:
Really? Any proof of this?
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theathletic.com

When Chelsea courted Guardiola and what would have happened had he joined?

Roman Abramovich courted Pep Guardiola for years. He didn't ever get his man, but what might Chelsea under him have looked like?
theathletic.com theathletic.com

www.theguardian.com

Pep Guardiola will keep Chelsea waiting and may not come at all | Sid Lowe

Sid Lowe: Far from drawing the former Barcelona manager closer to Stamford Bridge, Roberto Di Matteo's sacking may have pushed Roman Abramovich's first choice further away
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Machiavelli said:
Really? Any proof of this?
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That's what I was thinking. My feeling is that he was lined up for City after Mancini but didn't want to come in after the 2012/3 shitshow so gave everyone 3 years to sort it out and off to Bayern he went. He wasn't learning English in America for fun. Of course, he could have been talking to Chelsea, why not? He was talking to Ferguson too, but he was only going to one club when the time was right imo.
 
Vialli98 said:
Pep wouldn't. He was interested in coming here, was in touch with Marina and Abramovich during his sabbatical year but then saw how we gave a 4 year deal to RDM after winning the CL and then sacked him 4 months later and changed his mind and joined Bayern instead.
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Mate the day Soriano and Txiki arrived was the day Pep coming to City was sealed.

Anything else is rumour and paper talk.
 
blueinsa said:
Mate the day Soriano and Txiki arrived was the day Pep coming to City was sealed.

Anything else is rumour and paper talk.
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Maybe but Chelsea had been talking to him for years before that. We tried to get him to replace Ancelotti too. It’s clear the hiring and firing culture at Chelsea didn’t appeal to him.
 
ASHCFC said:
A bit too late?! way too late I think.

I think that the timing of everything seems to say that Abramovich wasn't within Putin's circle of trust when things kicked off, as surely he'd have commenced a sale much sooner otherwise?
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I think that is likely correct. He reacted to the invasion rather than pre-empted it. He was an opportunist who became rich by the Wild West methods then in force. I don’t think he was really the bad lad some have painted him.
He admitted his commercial sins in a London court and the judge commended him as an honest witness.
 
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Guardiola was wanted by Chelsea earlier in his career but suggested managers require more time than they are afforded by the Blues.

'In my first year never the club doubted me,' Guardiola said. 'It was never in the media that I'd be sacked if we lose this game.'

'I was surprised that when (Antonio) Conte won the title and they lost one or two games at the beginning of the season, people start to say he was going to be sacked.'

'I said: “Wow, but two or three months ago they won the Premier League”.

'I was never a potential option for Chelsea. I decided to go to Bayern Munich and came here with Ferran (Soriano) and Txiki (Begiristain), they trust me and I trust them.'

'In the first season when it was difficult I said we needed time and they supported me. The players knew who was the manager and who would be the manager.'

'It was stable, that's the best way to do something for a long time, not just a short period.'
 
halfcenturyup said:
That's what I was thinking. My feeling is that he was lined up for City after Mancini but didn't want to come in after the 2012/3 shitshow so gave everyone 3 years to sort it out and off to Bayern he went. He wasn't learning English in America for fun. Of course, he could have been talking to Chelsea, why not? He was talking to Ferguson too, but he was only going to one club when the time was right imo.
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Ferguson went to see him in NY. They had a fruitful talk and Taggart asked Pep to give him a ring when he was ready to go back into football. Pep never rang!
PS I think the sabbatical was the result of some pretty nasty stuff at Bayern directed against him. Following political stuff at Barca after they got rid of Txiki and Soriano, he needed a break. Had Barca treated him right, he might still be there.
 
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KS55 said:
I think that is likely correct. He reacted to the invasion rather than pre-emptied it. He was an opportunist who became rich by the Wild West methods then in force. I don’t think he was really the bad lad some have painted him.
He admitted his commercial sins in a London court and the judge commended him as an honest witness.
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I think the UK actually missed a trick by kicking Abramovich and other Russians out wholesale. I believe there are many prominent Russians who don't agree with the Putin regime, and that by continuing to work with them a Russian resistance might have been encouraged, over time.

But then again, Johnson was never worried about world peace or making things better. He much preferred a scapegoat to try to improve his short-term ratings.
 
ASHCFC said:
I think the UK actually missed a trick by kicking Abramovich and other Russians out wholesale. I believe there are many prominent Russians who don't agree with the Putin regime, and that by continuing to work with them a Russian resistance might have been encouraged, over time.

But then again, Johnson was never worried about world peace or making things better. He much preferred a scapegoat to try to improve his short-term ratings.
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And there was me thinking the only prominent Russians against Putin were dead prominent Russians.
 
KS55 said:
Er, it’s a long time since people were actually stoned in AbuDhabi even though it is still part of the Sharia, which the gov cannot touch.
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They can if they choose to. Define “can’t”?
 
halfcenturyup said:
And there was me thinking the only prominent Russians against Putin were dead prominent Russians.
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Not at all. Most of those with that persuasion inside of Russia are silent because it would pose that risk, but those outside of the country don’t have that risk so much, and many do speak out.

Also some within the borders are risking their lives to speak out. Such as Navalny.
 
KS55 said:
Can’t as in they have opened the door to Al Qaeda style forces if they interfere with sharia.
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Not with the tight grip they have in terms of military, state police, intelligence services etc.

Their prisons are not like our prisons, you really don’t wanna end up there. They also have the death penalty, and their enforcers are a lot more persuasive and effective than our’s. Just about every branch of their power is more persuasive and effective.
 
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