Was talking to somebody yesterday who said they were a friend of Peter Swales and they said that Swales had told them stories about the deep connection between city and the freemasons. Even said that the wearing of sky blue had some mason connotation. Has anybody else heard about these supposed links.
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City and the freemasons
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Mad Eyed Screamer
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I'm on my phone so can't find it, but go back a few pages (or more than a few) on this history forum and there is a thread about City and religion which talked about religion and freemasonry in the club.
Gary James gives as good an answer you will get
Gary James gives as good an answer you will get
Prestwich_Blue
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There was an article in the Masonic Quarterly magazine in 2002 featuring an interview with the late Sidney Rose about City's supposed Masonic connection.
www.mqmagazine.co.uk/issue-3/p-41.php
www.mqmagazine.co.uk/issue-3/p-41.php
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Hamann Pineapple
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Think we pissed them off at some point
pace89
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Always wondered if Swales' masonic links were the reason why, rather than being sacked, the likes of Book and Frizzell were deployed to different roles within the club after being relived of their managerial duties.
It wouldn't be a huge surprise if there was masonic involvement early on. Presumably many of the directors being successful(ish) Mancunian businessmen would also have been freemasons. Nevertheless, it didn't prevent the involvement of Jewish people in the club or stop us signing Roman Catholics so the influence could be overstated.
It wouldn't be a huge surprise if there was masonic involvement early on. Presumably many of the directors being successful(ish) Mancunian businessmen would also have been freemasons. Nevertheless, it didn't prevent the involvement of Jewish people in the club or stop us signing Roman Catholics so the influence could be overstated.
Mad Eyed Screamer
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http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/city-and-religion.274851/page-6
Searched the thread about religion and City and the only mention of the freemasons was on the link above towards the bottom of the page by newtownards blue.
Says it is mentioned in a book by Albert Alexander's grandson about the masonic influence but the comment received no reply.
Searched the thread about religion and City and the only mention of the freemasons was on the link above towards the bottom of the page by newtownards blue.
Says it is mentioned in a book by Albert Alexander's grandson about the masonic influence but the comment received no reply.
trotsky
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A fella, who should know about these things, told me that sky blue / white / maroon are important colours to the masons. Hence so many teams choosing that combo. A quick Google suggests there may be something in this
http://sx44.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/masons24.jpg
... although that could just be a picture of the Wilmsow OSC.
http://sx44.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/masons24.jpg
... although that could just be a picture of the Wilmsow OSC.
There's thread specifically devoted to City and freemasonry from back in 2009. It may be too old to feature in the searches on the forum now, because I tried to find it that way without success. However, I managed to Google it. The link is to page 5 of the seven-page thread, because that's where Gary James makes his first appearance: http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/city-and-the-masons.142687/page-5
As far as I know, the position hasn't changed significantly since Gary wrote the following in October 2009:
I'm sure if there's any update, Gary will provide it if he sees the thread and when he has time.
As far as I know, the position hasn't changed significantly since Gary wrote the following in October 2009:
Proof doesn't exist and unfortunately Sidney Rose's article had errors, rumours and myths in it ... I covered it in "Manchester A Football History" (pages 358-359 & elsewhere) and my conclusion was: "the Masonic influence does seem far too strong to suggest the shirt's colour and branding is co-incidence" but at that point in the book I'm talking more about the use of the white Patee (often referred to as Maltese) cross that predates the use of blue.
I'm sure if there's any update, Gary will provide it if he sees the thread and when he has time.