City fans' view towards the Champions League

[TFC]

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[supercity88]

It's a stupid point to make. For a start, they didn't decide to "leave" the champions league. They decided to take it over - the total opposite.

I wouldn't say it is stupid. For me it makes a good point around our perception of the owners being desperate to win the CL. That's something we hear from the media all of the time, and as fans, we believe there to be a desire to win it - whether it's seen as the most important to them I'm not sure.

They were happy for there to be a spin-off or new version of it. Remember, UEFA weren't up for it being taken over so it wasn't quite a case of an updated version of what we currently see.

I think it is answers the question as to what our owners answer would be to this question. Do you enjoy the Champions League? We enjoy whatever competition gives us the most revenue and prize money. There has never really been any doubt as to that being their answer. But for us as fans the answer to the question can, and should be quite different.

It's inarguably the most prestigious for players and managers and the most important because of that. Would Neville give up a few league winners medals for one more CL title? You bet he would. Would Carragher swap his CL medal for a league title? Not a fucking chance.

 

[blue whippet]

I actually like the champions league, it's the only cup scheme I regularly opt into with my season ticket. I work shifts and it causes me endless headaches trying to book days off for premier leagues games only to find they have been shifted for TV. At least with this this competition dates are firm. I enjoy coming through town with opposition fans milling around and I enjoy seeing different teams. I want to win it just like I want to win every competition we enter. It doesn't mean I like UEFA though.

 

[failsworthblueboy]

For me it's like the local chippy, the food is great but the owner is an arogant tw*t, I still go because I love the food, I just have to put up with the owner, it's the only way to get the food.

 

[CatMan]

It's just another competition with a trophy at the end. Sure, there is a load of money to be made, but ultimately it's just a trophy for which we have competed.

In reality, we know it's fundamentally flawed, in fact totally flawed in that it allows teams to lose games in the group stage and in later rounds progress with draws on away goals. It's perfectly feasible in fact that a team could draw 6 group games, draws all 6 knockout games and draw the final yet goals scored, away goals and then a penalty shoot out would declare a team, who are probably not Champions of their own country even, the Champions of Europe. Have a think about that for a little while, and the younger fans amongst you just may begin to see why the lagacy fans see it as a gimmick that is only rivalled by the Emperor's New Clothes!

Meanwhile the much derived League Cup doesn't allow any side to progress that loses a game, doesn't employ away goals and uses extra time wherever possible to produce a victor before the eventuality of penalty kicks. In short, as a tournament it's rules are fair and not concocted to allow failure to triumph.

My penultimate point is I got much more satisfaction beating United in the Semi Final of the League Cup than I did beating a load of cheating mercenaries currently employed by a team in Paris in the misnomer known as the Champions League.

Finally, Will I want City to beat Chelsea?, well of course I will. Will I be devastated if we lose?, no I won't as although Chelsea will be conveniently crowned Champions of Europe I will reconcile the fact that they are not the best team in Europe being not even the best team in England, much the same scenario I may add as in 2012.

Would I swap the Premier League for Champions League? Absolutely no chance, never, and I'm not sure many fans would.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I have always loved European football, not least for the amazing away trips. I have only missed three home European matches since 1969 (pre-pandemic). I even went to the Anglo Italian Cup game.
But I have hated UEFA for many years and also the way we have been repeatedly stitched up in the Champs League. The problem has always been the authorities not the football (which is the best level you can watch).

 

[The perfect fumble]

They see/saw winning the premier league in the exactly the same way.

Who gives a shit? It didn't reduce the euphoria when we won it. The exact same applies to the Champions League.

Why bother supporting City if your overriding emotions are cynicism of the owners instead of desire for success?

Given everything this club has been through I'd say that anyone who isn't desperate to win the biggest club football trophy in the world for the first time does not genuinely care about the club.

Where does one begin with a post like this?

Sorry mate, but I'm not rising to your bait.

It's important to our club that we win the Champions League, just how important depends on what kind of stakeholder you are. Our owners want it for different reasons to me, and different reasons to Pep for sure, he never tires of reminding everyone that the true mettle of a team is to win the league, particularly a competitive league like the Premier.

The reason your post was such a stinker.....

I've thought a bit this week about the small-minded Likkle City fans who've always lurked, claiming not the care about the biggest club competition in the world. They are our "legacy" fans, stuck in an era where City defined themselves by the odd derby victory and hope of a cup final every decade or so.

Hopefully the quality, the excitement, the hype, the profile and the euphoria of this week's game has illustrated to these people how they need to heave themselves into the modern world of MCFC.

I'm going to use a wank phrase: "What's not to like"? This is as exciting as 1999, 2000, 2011 and 12.

Was its insistence that those who didn't see it as you do are "likkle City fans" and worst of all "legacy fans".

You compound your shithousery by stating....

anyone who isn't desperate to win the biggest club football trophy in the world for the first time does not genuinely care about the club.

Desperate to win?

Desperate?!!!

Get a life! All City fans will celebrate if we win that cup, but desperate? Give over.

I genuinely believe City fans are different to every fan base in the Premier League, and it's to do with our history, and it's something we should treasure. If any other fan base had enjoyed the success we've had over the last ten years they'd be insufferable entitled Billy Big Bollocks, but we're not.

We're not desperate to win that cup, we're not as a fan base full of desperation, because we've nothing to prove that we haven't proven already. It would be nice to win that cup, very, very nice, but I don't need a bunch of corrupt Euro trash thugs to hand us a big handled cup to ease my sense of desperation, to validate my club.

And I don't take kindly to the likes of you proscribing how I and other blues have to feel about it in order to qualify as "genuinely" caring for our club.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

For me it's like the local chippy, the food is great but the owner is an arogant tw*t, I still go because I love the food, I just have to put up with the owner, it's the only way to get the food.

good way of describing it :-)

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Booooooooooooooooooo........mmmm!

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

There are 22 teams across the whole of Europe who have won it. If you think about all the great clubs, with their dedicated fans, and years of pain and suffering, who are not on that list it really boggles the mind. 22 teams, and City could make it 23.