City Matters thread

Yes Alex but I’m talking about the months and months before that. As PB will tell you I was a thorn in his side at times I’m sure. It was a hit or miss situation. Maybe this month not next month!

Why I’m celebrating is that now the FA have made it part of the Terms of Reference they have to publish them. :-)
Sorry, I understood what you meant - poor wording on my part. I agree it has been poor (and not even hit and miss) for too long.
 
Calling me a cynic but if the Premier League are behind this fans engagement thing you can bet the motive is political or money or both.

The motive is clearly trying to show the government that the PL can increase fan involvement without an IR. Unfortunately for the PL, politicians are experts at producing and identifying bullshit so it won't make the slightest difference.
 
Engagement goes so far and actions speak louder than words. City’s Directors hiked up match day tickets despite giving encouragement that there would be price restraint (except for the “biggest games”), last season. That’s no surprise but why tell the porkies. Maybe it’s the norm in Bolton.
 
Engagement goes so far and actions speak louder than words. City’s Directors hiked up match day tickets despite giving encouragement that there would be price restraint (except for the “biggest games”), last season. That’s no surprise but why tell the porkies. Maybe it’s the norm in Bolton.

Agree with you most of the time mate but I was highly sceptical when you said that previously though. The delights of living in a capitalist world. They're still trying to find their 'sweet spot' where they can fill the stadium at the highest price possible. Prices won't be frozen or eased until this no longer occurs in my eyes. With all the new 'fans' we're gaining this isn't going to happen any time soon unless there's a substantial drop off.

Unfortunately the club operates as coldly as any other business. I think most people see their club as an extension of their family and it grates that they're trying to milk us for every penny. Just because you can charge £90 for a ticket against Utd or price a childs ticket at £40 doesn't mean you should.
 
Agree with you most of the time mate but I was highly sceptical when you said that previously though. The delights of living in a capitalist world. They're still trying to find their 'sweet spot' where they can fill the stadium at the highest price possible. Prices won't be frozen or eased until this no longer occurs in my eyes. With all the new 'fans' we're gaining this isn't going to happen any time soon unless there's a substantial drop off.

Unfortunately the club operates as coldly as any other business. I think most people see their club as an extension of their family and it grates that they're trying to milk us for every penny. Just because you can charge £90 for a ticket against Utd or price a childs ticket at £40 doesn't mean you should.
I agree that it makes good business sense mate. City will milk the easy pickings and commercially, I don’t really blame them. Maybe they could be a bit more careful about what they lead fans to believe but that’s life and I’m always a bit cynical about promises from the suits anyway.

FWIW, there is now a higher number of families with kids with learning difficulties or autism asking to join the OSC Branch I run. They are very welcome. It could be indicative of City making it more difficult for “low Profit” customers to get tickets for home games, or it could be pure chance.
 
For those that are interested, City today published their Fan Engagement Plan 2023/2024 which they are required to do under the Premier League's new Fan Engagement Standard (FES). It outlines how the club intend to engage with supporters over the season. The FES outlines that the Premier League expect clubs to conduct a large part of their engagement via formally constituted groups, which is why City Matters take such a central role. In my view, I think the plan is a bit plain and doesn't go into season specific aims which I would have liked it do - such as ticket prices or criteria.

Overall news story: https://www.mancity.com/news/club/man-city-fan-engagement-plan-202324-63828993

Fan Engagement Plan: https://www.mancity.com/meta/media/guvnwkit/manchester-city-2023-2024_fan-engagement-plan.pdf

I think the Terms of References that have been produced alongside the Fan Engagement Plan are a lot more interesting. They codify and strengthen the governance of the group, such as the recruitment process and documentation, something I have been pushing for.

Terms of Reference: https://www.mancity.com/meta/media/1ujdh4hq/city-matters_2023-24-season_terms-of-reference.pdf
 
In addition, the minutes for our first meeting of the season have gone live. Whilst the meeting was largely about the aforementioned Fan Engagement Standard/Plan and Terms of Reference, we also discussed the next steps to my report on Istanbul and the North Stand.

Still no comment about the horrific experiences for 99% of us in Istanbul despite being asked. The club’s silence has been nothing short of disgraceful.
 
In addition, the minutes for our first meeting of the season have gone live. Whilst the meeting was largely about the aforementioned Fan Engagement Standard/Plan and Terms of Reference, we also discussed the next steps to my report on Istanbul and the North Stand.


Thanks Alex.

Can you add anything further to this section of the minutes?

In addition to one of the City Matters sub-groups focusing on the North Stand development over the course of this season and the duration of the full construction project, a separate meeting will be hosted by the Club to include City Matters and other fan groups within the next 8 weeks.

The Club will use this meeting to gather further views on the matchday experience.

PS. You probably forgot? Did you ask about the possibility of a live webcam covering the construction?

The Coop Live Arena webcam has been taken down for some reason.
Probably because the exterior build of the arena is pretty much completed?
 
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