johnbmcr
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SWP's back said:
does manager of the month not count?
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does manager of the month not count?
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blueinsa
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johnbmcr said:SWP's back said:That's the crux of it.blueinsa said:League Cup final, Check!
FA cup 5th round, Check!
2nd in Premier league, Check!
Last 16 CL, Check!
Last 19 games, won 17, drawn 2, lost 0, Check!
Only mistake was you logging on to post that shit!
But what has he won yet? Nothing. A better manager would have already won a few trophies this season.
does manager of the month not count?
Nah, Bob would have won it had he been here.
BluessinceHydeRoad
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City are at that stage of the season where the only thing that counts is getting the win. In the FA cup it is always win or bust anyway. The season, and yesterday in particular, is not about "the battle of the managers" - is it only City's fans who have difficulty coping with the possibility that we might actually have two great managers in succession? - but I actually thought Pellegrini came up with the goods when it really mattered. The first half was a shambles with the full backs overlapping, Lescott and Dimichelis chugging along in the wake of some (three!) nippy lads for Watford while we produced nothing up front. At half time, to say the least, the quadruple looked more than dodgy!
When I saw Zaba and Vinnie warming up at half time the boost to my confidence - let alone the team's - was huge, especially when Vinnie announced his arrival with a clenched fist and a drive forward which was three times faster and more energetic than anything we'd seen in the first 45. He woke the lads up and enthused them! I don't want to criticise Micah, who has had at least 18 months of injury hell and is still "coming back" but I do believe that the Zaba-Navas partnership is on a level which is near telepathic. With Zaba both creating and exploiting space Jesus, from being a frustrated, peripheral figure forced inside in the first half, became a constant danger and game changer. As a result Edin and Sergio came alive and the City goal machine surged into life. Marcos Lopes, who had worked hard without really getting into the game, gave way to Jovetic, whose give and go game was another problem for Watford. Watford didn't drop back in the second half, they were pushed back.
So, in the end we're through to the last 16. The posts of "bad day at the office", "that team should have been easily good enough to beat Watford" are not necessary. The fact is that for 45 minutes they were nowhere near good enough. It was Pellegrini's substitutions which saved the day and he deserves the credit. I'm sure he'd rather have rested Zaba and Vinnie (Stevan was always going to get half an hour) but' in the end, as he says, top teams have to win the game they're playing or they don't win anything. Well done, Pellers!
When I saw Zaba and Vinnie warming up at half time the boost to my confidence - let alone the team's - was huge, especially when Vinnie announced his arrival with a clenched fist and a drive forward which was three times faster and more energetic than anything we'd seen in the first 45. He woke the lads up and enthused them! I don't want to criticise Micah, who has had at least 18 months of injury hell and is still "coming back" but I do believe that the Zaba-Navas partnership is on a level which is near telepathic. With Zaba both creating and exploiting space Jesus, from being a frustrated, peripheral figure forced inside in the first half, became a constant danger and game changer. As a result Edin and Sergio came alive and the City goal machine surged into life. Marcos Lopes, who had worked hard without really getting into the game, gave way to Jovetic, whose give and go game was another problem for Watford. Watford didn't drop back in the second half, they were pushed back.
So, in the end we're through to the last 16. The posts of "bad day at the office", "that team should have been easily good enough to beat Watford" are not necessary. The fact is that for 45 minutes they were nowhere near good enough. It was Pellegrini's substitutions which saved the day and he deserves the credit. I'm sure he'd rather have rested Zaba and Vinnie (Stevan was always going to get half an hour) but' in the end, as he says, top teams have to win the game they're playing or they don't win anything. Well done, Pellers!
dctid said:SWP's back said:That's the crux of it.blueinsa said:League Cup final, Check!
FA cup 5th round, Check!
2nd in Premier league, Check!
Last 16 CL, Check!
Last 19 games, won 17, drawn 2, lost 0, Check!
Only mistake was you logging on to post that shit!
But what has he won yet? Nothing. A better manager would have already won a few trophies this season.
Pellers selction yesterday was good no issues the players need to take responsability and i think a few were found out
Pellers is playing the stlye of football that he has been told to do by the club open and attacking stlye its excellent to watch
Had that result gone the other way then it would have been the players fault pure and dimple they just looked complacent to me
Dimple?? you pimple 'its Sample'!!! :)
City came out like a different animal 2nd half - Pellegrini earned his corn whatever he didBluessinceHydeRoad said:City are at that stage of the season where the only thing that counts is getting the win. In the FA cup it is always win or bust anyway. The season, and yesterday in particular, is not about "the battle of the managers" - is it only City's fans who have difficulty coping with the possibility that we might actually have two great managers in succession? - but I actually thought Pellegrini came up with the goods when it really mattered. The first half was a shambles with the full backs overlapping, Lescott and Dimichelis chugging along in the wake of some (three!) nippy lads for Watford while we produced nothing up front. At half time, to say the least, the quadruple looked more than dodgy!
When I saw Zaba and Vinnie warming up at half time the boost to my confidence - let alone the team's - was huge, especially when Vinnie announced his arrival with a clenched fist and a drive forward which was three times faster and more energetic than anything we'd seen in the first 45. He woke the lads up and enthused them! I don't want to criticise Micah, who has had at least 18 months of injury hell and is still "coming back" but I do believe that the Zaba-Navas partnership is on a level which is near telepathic. With Zaba both creating and exploiting space Jesus, from being a frustrated, peripheral figure forced inside in the first half, became a constant danger and game changer. As a result Edin and Sergio came alive and the City goal machine surged into life. Marcos Lopes, who had worked hard without really getting into the game, gave way to Jovetic, whose give and go game was another problem for Watford. Watford didn't drop back in the second half, they were pushed back.
So, in the end we're through to the last 16. The posts of "bad day at the office", "that team should have been easily good enough to beat Watford" are not necessary. The fact is that for 45 minutes they were nowhere near good enough. It was Pellegrini's substitutions which saved the day and he deserves the credit. I'm sure he'd rather have rested Zaba and Vinnie (Stevan was always going to get half an hour) but' in the end, as he says, top teams have to win the game they're playing or they don't win anything. Well done, Pellers!
Good to see Jovetic getting some more minutes under his belt. Anything that brings his game on is good.
blue b4 the moon
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Alls well that ends well.
A poor first half with too many players not up to it through either fitness or apathy.
Much better second half and funny watching a few old Watford fans lose it near the divide in 117.
There's threads on here on occasions about our most important player and its so hard to pinpoint. Yesterday even with 3 goals from Kun it had to be Zaba. Nobody else can give us balance on the right side and without that we'd have lost.
A poor first half with too many players not up to it through either fitness or apathy.
Much better second half and funny watching a few old Watford fans lose it near the divide in 117.
There's threads on here on occasions about our most important player and its so hard to pinpoint. Yesterday even with 3 goals from Kun it had to be Zaba. Nobody else can give us balance on the right side and without that we'd have lost.
Bill
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OB1 said:de niro said:Exeter Blue I am here said:Like I said before. Talking out of your arse as usual. If you can't make the distinction between a genuinely substandard team selection and one that should have been comfortably strong enough to defeat 'B' list opposition, but simply played poorly, then you can't be helped. You can keep huffing and puffing if you want, but to be honest you've worn me out already.
Contextualise - to place in a particular context [OED]. And it's "queens" with a capital Q and an apostrophe. And you're welcome.......
I have decided you know nothing about our manager.
nothing about our club
and nothing about football.
just sayin like.
Well, you would be wrong; just as you are about rotation and yesterday's starting 11.
I've not seen many on this forum that have a better understanding of the game than Exeter Blue and, if I was compiling a list of those that do, you (genuinely no offence intended) would not be on it.
no offence taken.
the only thing is with bell ends sorry enders is they can't own up when the manager drops a bollock and gets away with it. we did v Blackburn and we did yesterday.
we didn't v sunderland away and we wont in other prem games.
don't have to be a football expert, even plastic ones to see that .
bluevengence
Well-Known Member
BluessinceHydeRoad said:City are at that stage of the season where the only thing that counts is getting the win. In the FA cup it is always win or bust anyway. The season, and yesterday in particular, is not about "the battle of the managers" - is it only City's fans who have difficulty coping with the possibility that we might actually have two great managers in succession? - but I actually thought Pellegrini came up with the goods when it really mattered. The first half was a shambles with the full backs overlapping, Lescott and Dimichelis chugging along in the wake of some (three!) nippy lads for Watford while we produced nothing up front. At half time, to say the least, the quadruple looked more than dodgy!
When I saw Zaba and Vinnie warming up at half time the boost to my confidence - let alone the team's - was huge, especially when Vinnie announced his arrival with a clenched fist and a drive forward which was three times faster and more energetic than anything we'd seen in the first 45. He woke the lads up and enthused them! I don't want to criticise Micah, who has had at least 18 months of injury hell and is still "coming back" but I do believe that the Zaba-Navas partnership is on a level which is near telepathic. With Zaba both creating and exploiting space Jesus, from being a frustrated, peripheral figure forced inside in the first half, became a constant danger and game changer. As a result Edin and Sergio came alive and the City goal machine surged into life. Marcos Lopes, who had worked hard without really getting into the game, gave way to Jovetic, whose give and go game was another problem for Watford. Watford didn't drop back in the second half, they were pushed back.
So, in the end we're through to the last 16. The posts of "bad day at the office", "that team should have been easily good enough to beat Watford" are not necessary. The fact is that for 45 minutes they were nowhere near good enough. It was Pellegrini's substitutions which saved the day and he deserves the credit. I'm sure he'd rather have rested Zaba and Vinnie (Stevan was always going to get half an hour) but' in the end, as he says, top teams have to win the game they're playing or they don't win anything. Well done, Pellers!
Great post,thats exactly as I saw it....when Vinnie came on giving it the clenched fist I knew we would win.
prestonibbo_mcfc
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Didsbury Dave said:pride in battle said:AdamoTheGreat said:loved vinnys team talk before they went out for the second half, as seen on the tunnel cam.
"forget about what happened in the first half. we're a better team then they are. lets fucking hammer them. were aggressive all game and go after them all together. come on!"
got me rock hard!
Did he really say that?
That's one of the reasons that the introduction of vinny was a master stroke. Obviously he is better equipped to deal with the pace at the back, and also it put demichelis in the holding role and allowed yaya to play forward. But you just knew, from the minute they warmed up together, that he and zab would get the whole team playing.
Well it helps that he doesn't shit himself everytime the ball turns up.
OB1
Well-Known Member
de niro said:OB1 said:de niro said:I have decided you know nothing about our manager.
nothing about our club
and nothing about football.
just sayin like.
Well, you would be wrong; just as you are about rotation and yesterday's starting 11.
I've not seen many on this forum that have a better understanding of the game than Exeter Blue and, if I was compiling a list of those that do, you (genuinely no offence intended) would not be on it.
no offence taken.
the only thing is with bell ends sorry enders is they can't own up when the manager drops a bollock and gets away with it. we did v Blackburn and we did yesterday.
we didn't v sunderland away and we wont in other prem games.
don't have to be a football expert, even plastic ones to see that .
It's not about admitting that the manager dropped a bollock. The manager has to rotate players, for all sorts of reasons. Games against lower division opposition should be a good time to ease players like Rodwell and Richards back from injury. They are also games where you should be able to risk giving someone like Lopes another start when he has just performed well against Premier League opposition. None of those moves was unreasonable.
I didn't see the game - other than the feeble highlights - and I'm not well up on Watford but they obviously played well in the first half and they may well have come with a game plan that was not obvious from the scouting reports City complied on them: they do after all have a new manager. They may well have caught City by surprise. However, even allowing for that, Pellegrini was entitled to expect more from that starting 11.
The notion you put forward of starting with your best 11 and wrapping the game up early sounds nice but brings no guarantees; especially if complacency is a problem and it still could have been. Furthermore, Pellegrini probably did not want to use Kompany or Zab at all so why would he start them?