JGL07
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Bullshit. The USSR never occupied Helsinki. They invaded Finland in 1939 but only had the objective of protecting Leningrad. The USSR advanced into Finland but once they occupied the Karelian Istmus, called off the offensive.
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Here are the Russians not invading Helsinkl.Bullshit. The USSR never occupied Helsinki. They invaded Finland in 1939 but only had the objective of protecting Leningrad. The USSR advanced into Finland but once they occupied the Karelian Istmus, called off the offensive.
Here are the Russians not invading Helsinkl.
Which they didn't manage to do. Finland had to fight both USSR and Germany and remained independent after the war with a tiny army and great national pride. Most citizens are proud to be conscripted into their army to this day.
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We will never get the World Cup till the Premier League is done. Far far far too much jealousy out there in the world of football.Where did you get the idea that the ‘troubles’ in Northern Ireland were happening in 1966? You have your timelines screwed up here.
The thing did did not really kick off until 1969. By then the old official IRA had backed off from their ‘border campaign’ in the 1950s and had effectively demilitarised.
It was 1970 when the real violence started. By the the British troops had their role shifted away from protecting the Catholic population from Loyalist mobs with the emergence of the Provisional IRA and IRSP paramilitary groups.
By the time of Euro 1996, the Provos second cease fire was holding.
Why would the World Cup be withheld from England for dispute that was yet to start for three years? Why would the Euros be withheld after the positive move to settle a 25-year old violent dispute?
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finland fought WITH germany against the USSR, belligerently. they received weapons and food shipments from nazi germany. They allowed german troops to be stationed in finland during germany's war against the USSR. Once the war against the USSR ended, they joined the allies in the war against germany.Which they didn't manage to do. Finland had to fight both USSR and Germany and remained independent after the war with a tiny army and great national pride. Most citizens are proud to be conscripted into their army to this day.
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Only on blue moon can a title thread be about potentially where the champions league final may be moved to, to arguing about ussr invading Finland etc ffs
Like I said had to fight both and had no choice who they sided with. You can't side with a country who is attacking you. They would have ended up massacred by both sides and thrown to the dogs at the end of it like Poland after the USSR won WW2 and the west went out with a whimper.finland fought WITH germany against the USSR, belligerently. they received weapons and food shipments from nazi germany. They allowed german troops to be stationed in finland during germany's war against the USSR. Once the war against the USSR ended, they joined the allies in the war against germany.
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All good and well but ultimately if the Germans ended up beating away the soviets and conquering the world, it would have been through huge Finnish strategic support. They made a decision that was very difficult but have to reconcile with the consequences of that decisionLike I said had to fight both and had no choice who they sided with. You can't side with a country who is attacking you. They would have ended up massacred by both sides and thrown to the dogs at the end of it like Poland after the USSR won WW2 and the west went out with a whimper.
Saying Germany could have won the war thanks to "huge support" from Finland is like saying City beat Sporting because Kayky cheered the team on from the bench.All good and well but ultimately if the Germans ended up beating away the soviets and conquering the world, it would have been through huge Finnish strategic support. They made a decision that was very difficult but have to reconcile with the consequences of that decision
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The German troops having a resupply base and being able to station in Finland as well as the red army being preoccupied with the Finns was a huge factor in that warSaying Germany could have won the war thanks to "huge support" from Finland is like saying City beat Sporting because Kayky cheered the team on from the bench.