climate change

The world has always been in close state of equilibrium up until 200 years ago. Human contribution can cause the world from leaving this state of close equilibrium and it can have an unpredicted effect on climate. What would happen?

The right definition of Sustainability is the "ability to meet the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations from meeting their own needs". A lot of studies, unbiased studies, need to be done to figure our what we are actually doing to the planet. Putting in extra carbon dioxide, that otherwise would not have been released in the atmosphere is obviously unnatural.<br /><br />-- Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:16 pm --<br /><br />
Bilboblue said:
ernesto said:
Robbo. said:
Its been dieing since it begun. We havnt change that.
are we not hastening the demise ?


you gonna be around to mourn it?

That is irrelevant. Future humans will be, and it is unfair to them to suffer what we've done.

We may not be causing climate change but our ways are wasteful and if we keep our ways the future is not going to be bright.
 
I think there is little doubt that climate change is happening but whether it is man made is another matter.

On balance I think it probably is, but don't necessarily see it as the doomsday scenario that others do.

Some academics have calculated that a moderate degree of global warming will save more lives than it claims.

I know Ernesto will see this as another piece of irrefutable evidence of my crypto-fascist leanings but the only factor that is going to have any meaningful impact on our consumption of oil is the price of that commodity. Once it becomes unaffordable to extract human ingenuity and the profit motive will weave their magic.

I just hope it's before any lasting damage is inflicted on our planet. Wishing the problem away, I'm sorry to say, will achieve nothing as you cannot surpress humanities' hard-wiring to improve itself materially.
 
ernesto said:
Lucky13 said:
The clue is we are a living planet, our climate has always changed.
i think you might find that the planet is dieing, or are you another right winger in denial ?
If it is dying, then by very definition it is also living.
 
ernesto said:
Lucky13 said:
The clue is we are a living planet, our climate has always changed.
i think you might find that the planet is dieing, or are you another right winger in denial ?


Are you Al Gore? You know the bloke who makes a living flying round the world telling us to stop flying?

The last ice age and subsequent warming was @13k years ago who gets the blame for that?
 
mrt4919 said:
Global warming.....a capitalist concept to fool the workers through exploitation by the rich introducing added value products as new technology.
Reduce carbon footprints...... just another angle to increase profit. Its all laughable and just unproven hocus pocus by the scientific elite for the benifit of multinationals.
Trust no one.

Well except Mancini and the ADUG.


Scientist and Guangos.....jobs for the boys and some of us believe it
 
so a guy knocks on your door n sez"am putting a new tax on you mate" how much?"probably a few hundred quid a year" whats if for? "fresh air mate" ????? daft as it seems we fucking pay it:{
 

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