I've no doubt the consultation bit was genuine. It ticked a box.
I'm Not disputing that Gary hadn't been told the badge had not already been redesigned. That was the clubs party line. They are hardly going to say otherwise are they. So again, please enlighten me and tell me when I have called Gary a liar.
if the club wanted to genuinely put a badge out to consultation they would have release a short list to vote on. They didn't that's there perogative. Doesn't bother me that. Just be honest about it .
I don't agree with you mate, and here's why. Gary James has said in the past that when Khaldoon first became involved in the club, he booked a meeting with Gary to learn about the history of the club. He was particularly interested in the rose badge, and the meaning and history behind it. He clearly had a fondness for this badge. If the club had wanted to simple please Khaldoon, they could quite easily just updated the rose badge.
Instead, they took the time to find our what fans wanted. There is no question the fans wanted a return to a round badge, that was very clear on these boards and the MEN vote. Other popular elements were the ship, the inner shield, the rivers and the rose. Going off the MEN poll, and on here, the rivers were slightly more popular than the rose, but it was close. The statistics released by the club are exactly in line with the posts on here and the MEN poll.
If the club had just did what they want, it would be a remarkable coincidence that the badge they had designed in advance contained all of the most popular elements!
As I've said previously, my first choice was the rivers. However, I think if they wanted to include the rose, it would actually look cleaner, more simple, more iconic without the rivers. The fact the club has included both has probably made the design worse, but they've done it to appease the fans.
It's ridiculous to claim the club have designed a badge without listening to the fan's views on the consultation. All of the evidence points strongly towards the exact opposite!