Club Badge (merged)

I always find it a bit odd that people are still attached to the 'old' counties. These counties were the definition of administrative areas, put in so the local sheriff knew where to stop oppressing the locals and leave it to the next door thug. It's just that they were set up a long, long time ago. However they were put there by a government, not God, and were just as 'artificial' as any other random political unit.

Any road, the badge isn't perfect, it's not what I'd have chosen, but it's better than the one in place. No badge is going to satisfy everyone, but this is a fair compromise.

Great post. I just don't understand the posts where people say "Greater Manchester is just an administrative area that the Tory's forced upon us". As opposed to Lancashire, which was an administrative area forced upon us by the ruling power a few hundred years ago! What's the difference?!

Manchester is no longer part of Lancashire in any political or commercial sense. Greater Manchester is it's own autonomous city region. The 10 Greater Manchester councils own Manchester, East Midlands and Stanstead airports. The GM city council are recieving devolved powers for taxation, transport, health, home building, and economic powers that no other city or region has ever had in the country.

Yet some claim Manchester is still really in Lancashire. In what possible way is it still in Lancashire?!! Greater Manchester city council is now the most important regional authority in the country, it has as much to do with Preston and Blackburn as it does with Leeds or Birmingham!

Aside from that, the rose adds a bit of colour and depth to the badge, and to me it represents an old popular City badge more than it does the county of Lancashire.
 
Absolutely love the new badge, it's a thing of beauty, it looks bright, friendly and endearing, and i can imagine a lot of kids around the world staring at it in wonder much like i used to do when i was a boy that collected football stickers (also the saints badge had a certain fascination).

We've basically gone back to the old badge and it's brilliant.
 
The historical areas of Lancashire have been shires intetwined since Roman times as part of the Brigante northern kingdom, though not named Lancashire until the 12th century the land between the Ribble and Mersey has always been considered one single shire, even mentinoed in the doomsday book,. So yes the name and who administered it was created by Land owners and politicians, but the land itself has been known as a county or shire for nearly 2000 years with or without the name Manchester will always be part of this historic county region whether it's Lancashire, Greater Manc , the salford 100 or whatever else it has been called over it's lifetime, but for 800 years it was Lancashire and some people still recognise it as that and probably will till the next generation is long gone.

All that counts is that the badge represents City both past and present and kills that wretched bird off
 
Great post. I just don't understand the posts where people say "Greater Manchester is just an administrative area that the Tory's forced upon us". As opposed to Lancashire, which was an administrative area forced upon us by the ruling power a few hundred years ago! What's the difference?!

Manchester is no longer part of Lancashire in any political or commercial sense. Greater Manchester is it's own autonomous city region. The 10 Greater Manchester councils own Manchester, East Midlands and Stanstead airports. The GM city council are recieving devolved powers for taxation, transport, health, home building, and economic powers that no other city or region has ever had in the country.

Yet some claim Manchester is still really in Lancashire. In what possible way is it still in Lancashire?!! Greater Manchester city council is now the most important regional authority in the country, it has as much to do with Preston and Blackburn as it does with Leeds or Birmingham!

Aside from that, the rose adds a bit of colour and depth to the badge, and to me it represents an old popular City badge more than it does the county of Lancashire.

Istree innit, mate? We might just as well turn the ship into a plane, replace the rivers with three microchips and the rose with a Greggs pastie.

On reflection, the eagle had none of these emotive historical connotations. Bring back our birdie, City....
 
I think you could have made 2 versions of that badge 12onths ago one with the rose one without ,I think that's probably the only information that came out of the survey that you couldn't have predicted before hand

I can agree with that. It's so obvious what type of badge the fans wanted, the club would have seen the amount of references to the old badge on fan flags.

I think the majority would have been happy with either the 3 rivers, rose or both. As it is I'm now very happy they've given a nod to both.

I think the club have handled it perfectly and got all the aspects the fans wanted, whilst keeping it clean and smart. Obviously not everyone will be happy though.
 
Was wondering if I am the only person who thinks the dropping of football could be significant. It allows us to put are branding on things without causing a problem for rival fans or non football fans who might buy the product Cook did say that he wanted us to have our brand on all sorts of products. I suspect this has been mentioned before. My second thought was it could be to do with the Campus since it could do with some other sports facilities and teams to create footfall, interest, infrastructure, and goodwill, for more boring but commercially viable operations like hotels, Casino, concerts, food operations etc etc
 
Istree innit, mate? We might just as well turn the ship into a plane, replace the rivers with three microchips and the rose with a Greggs pastie.

On reflection, the eagle had none of these emotive historical connotations. Bring back our birdie, City....

Yeh I've got no problem with the rose being on the badge mate. I grew up with the original rose badge and the birdie never meant anything to me.

The ship, shield and rivers are all historic symbols of Manchester and are on the CoA. As the club represents the city of Manchester, it's right and proper that these things are represented.

From a symbolic point of view, while the rose is on the CoA, it was originally on our badge to represent Lancashire. The club is no longer in Lancashire, so it's a bit antiquated to include it, but it does make the design a bit more eye catching, so I'm happy for it to be there.

There's lots of things we could include, plane, microchip, atom, computer etc, but for me the Greggs pasty is similar to the rose, much more Lancastrian than Mancunian. I could get behind a barm being included though....
 

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