Cole Palmer

Coatigan said:
The opposite for me, keep him or sell him, a loan seems a bit pointless now.
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A loan is a last resort for me and selling would be extremely stupid by the club in my view, the last thing we should be doing is selling him that'd be the worst thing imaginable, in my opinion we could have our pants pulled down with people saying he's worth double within months.

Cole could be absolutely phenomenal if the shackles are taken off there's magic in his boots, he'd potentially be a key player for another team and if he had a great output for them, then he could realistically make an England debut before the season ended.

Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
I don’t imagine he’ll be going anywhere - either on a permanent deal or on loan - til we’ve got a replacement for Mahrez.

If we don’t bring a direct replacement in, this is exactly the chance Palmer has been looking for. He’s the most similar in style to Mahrez in our current squad, so is ideally positioned to benefit from him leaving.

So Brighton can want whatever the fuck they like - it’s isn’t going to happen.

He’s clearly not close to any move to Brighton, or anywhere else for that matter, given he’s gone on tour. All the players who have deals lined up have stayed at home.

Tells you everything you need to know about how advanced this deal is.
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100% want this to be the case the kid is talented enough, we still have Bernardo and Phil here that can both play on the right too.

Cole still deserves more chances, it's crazy that plenty here have already completely written him off.
 
Palmer is a brilliant talent, but what happened to his finishing he was a very good finisher in the eds but when he's had the chance in the Premier league his finishing has been poor.
 
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
A loan is a last resort for me and selling would be extremely stupid by the club in my view, the last thing we should be doing is selling him that'd be the worst thing imaginable, in my opinion we could have our pants pulled down with people saying he's worth double within months.

Cole could be absolutely phenomenal if the shackles are taken off there's magic in his boots, he'd potentially be a key player for another team and if he had a great output for them, then he could realistically make an England debut before the season ended.



100% want this to be the case the kid is talented enough, we still have Bernardo and Phil here that can both play on the right too.

Cole still deserves more chances, it's crazy that plenty here have already completely written him off.
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I know he is an academy player and he has potential but his performances in the recent Euros were steady but unspectacular. Indeed he looked somewhat inferior to Gomez who to me showed a lot more in that competition. I trust management if they decide to loan him out or sell him.
 
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
Cole could be absolutely phenomenal if the shackles are taken off there's magic in his boots, he'd potentially be a key player for another team and if he had a great output for them, then he could realistically make an England debut before
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Surely this is the problem though. Why are we bothering keeping him around if we are trying to force him into a role he is no good in.

He has magic in his boots, if hes in the right team. We aren't going to be changing our team to fit him and 99% of the minutes he has had for us have been pretty ordinary.
 
decmancity said:
Surely this is the problem though. Why are we bothering keeping him around if we are trying to force him into a role he is no good in.

He has magic in his boots, if hes in the right team. We aren't going to be changing our team to fit him and 99% of the minutes he has had for us have been pretty ordinary.
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Giving him a few games in his best position on the right wing might help his cause tbf
He’s so far been used almost exclusively on the left or in central midfield
Which is weird as Phil who came through as a natural 8/10 has been almost exclusively played on the wings
 
The problem with loans is there’s no guarantee of playing time. Look at Delap was wasted last season whereas McAtee thrived. Brighton are unlikely to take him on loan.

If he goes there permanently they will at least give him a chance. Palmer needs to play next season and play a lot. He’s 21 and only has 3 premier league starts. Sale and buy back could really work for him.
 
pavelsrnicek said:
The problem with loans is there’s no guarantee of playing time. Look at Delap was wasted last season whereas McAtee thrived. Brighton are unlikely to take him on loan.

If he goes there permanently they will at least give him a chance. Palmer needs to play next season and play a lot. He’s 21 and only has 3 premier league starts. Sale and buy back could really work for him.
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Delap played 23 games for Stoke and 15 for Preston last season. Admittedly quite a few were sub appearances but he did get opportunities and was not able to make the most of them.

I also would be concerned about playing time for him if loaned to a Premier League team but think he would thrive if loaned to one of the better Championship sides. 40 starting appearances at that level would do more for him than being mainly a sub in the league above.
 
Feel that if Cole can improve his decision making he can fulfil his potential. The only way he will improve that is by playing regular & he is unlikely to get that at City.
I thought McAtee wouldn't make it at City when he went out on loan, but 12 months playing regular at Sheffield utd has completely changed that.
Brighton probably want to see similar returns to what Southampton are looking at for Lavia.
 
pavelsrnicek said:
The problem with loans is there’s no guarantee of playing time. Look at Delap was wasted last season whereas McAtee thrived. Brighton are unlikely to take him on loan.
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Eh? Delap’s loans failed last season as he wasn’t good enough, and I have no doubt that benching him was more expensive for Stoke and Preston than starting him.

Indeed at Preston he was benched by two loan strikers…
 
Legal Alien said:
I want us to keep him and to see him take his chance with us.
Now that Mahrez has left he's going to get more minutes, so the incentive for him to play more is now down to him.
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Agree with this. I haven’t heard of a player mentioned to take Mahrez’s place who is better than Palmer. Loads of time to develop and would hold his price through next season..
 
Father Paul said:
I know he is an academy player and he has potential but his performances in the recent Euros were steady but unspectacular. Indeed he looked somewhat inferior to Gomez who to me showed a lot more in that competition. I trust management if they decide to loan him out or sell him.
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Whatever you think of those displays Cole is superior to Gomes to think otherwise is nonsense, he rarely played early on in that u21 tournament and had to work his way in, plus England without Palmer wouldn't have even made the final let alone won it.


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Angel Gomes professional football career so far:

113 games
7364 minutes
12 goals
14 assists
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(England u21: 18 games 0 goals)

That's while being bright and confident after improving much, because he's played first team football these past few seasons.


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Cole Palmer professional career so far:

41 games
1542 minutes
5 goals
5 assists
+
(England u21: 13 games 4 goals)

While being nearly two years younger, used very sparingly at times without many minutes at a time, generally playing out of position and yet to find his groove yet. Still though even if he carried on this trajectory without much improvement, he'd very likely be bettering those Gomes numbers.

If Palmer was at a team where he had the same amount of chances as the ex rag even out of position, then his numbers for goals and assists would defo be much higher than Angel Gomes I've no doubt.

He's got higher potential without question, and he's already a better player than him too in my opinion.
 
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