Colin Pitchfork

Alan Harper's Tash said:
Apologies if I did come across badly, I didn’t mean to.
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Wo wo mate, I'm not on here to fall out with fellow blues, especially a poster like you that I respect.
I enjoy a debate, like you do.
No apology needed bud, but I appreciate the sentiment.
I've said loads of daft things on here, but I've always been forgiven, as we are an understanding, caring, humanitarian bunch.
That makes us special in my view.
 
Nellies left peg said:
The first murderer to be found guilty through dna is eligible for release by the parole board. This twat killed two young women and got someone to take a dna test for him to evade capture, he should never get out along with loads of other killers. This country is soft beyond belief
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We need the death penalty. Now we are out of the EU, government should immediately explore options for a referendum on that topic. If he was rightfully executed after raping and killing two girls we wouldn't have to worry about any future trouble from him.
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
We need the death penalty. Now we are out of the EU, government should immediately explore options for a referendum on that topic. If he was rightfully executed after raping and killing two girls we wouldn't have to worry about any future trouble from him.
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It will never happen, but my view on serial sexual deviants is unless they can inject a drug into them, or operate on the brain and cure the drive that gives them sexual pleasure from raping and murdering predominantly women and kids, they should never be released. I don't believe therapy works on them, the drive is so strong it will eventually resurface. As Pitchfork alluded in his interviews, people will say and agree to anything to ensure they are released
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
We need the death penalty. Now we are out of the EU, government should immediately explore options for a referendum on that topic. If he was rightfully executed after raping and killing two girls we wouldn't have to worry about any future trouble from him.
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As long as we are members of the council of Europe we will not have capital punishment.

He has had access to the public unsupervised since 2017, and carried out some of his creepy behaviour of gifting chocolates to a female supermarket worker before he was granted parole.

His modus operandi for his crimes wasn't building connections but pulling young girls off the street. We don't know if his behaviour reflects him changing his MO or is something more innocent, he is a perverted double murderer but he is also probably a very sad lonely man after spending most of his adult life in jail.

But the conditions of his release mean he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and that is correct and proper for the protection of the public.

This isn't a failure of the system.

Even if we were able to change the law, there is no chance he would get executed because we can't pass laws that are retroactive.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
giphy.webp


As long as we are members of the council of Europe we will not have capital punishment.

He has had access to the public unsupervised since 2017, and carried out some of his creepy behaviour of gifting chocolates to a female supermarket worker before he was granted parole.

His modus operandi for his crimes wasn't building connections but pulling young girls off the street. We don't know if his behaviour reflects him changing his MO or is something more innocent, he is a perverted double murderer but he is also probably a very sad lonely man after spending most of his adult life in jail.

But the conditions of his release mean he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and that is correct and proper for the protection of the public.

This isn't a failure of the system.

Even if we were able to change the law, there is no chance he would get executed because we can't pass laws that are retroactive.
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The rise of social media seems to be taking us back to the Stone Age.

We’ll be burning witches again soon.
 
paulchapo said:
It will never happen, but my view on serial sexual deviants is unless they can inject a drug into them, or operate on the brain and cure the drive that gives them sexual pleasure from raping and murdering predominantly women and kids, they should never be released. I don't believe therapy works on them, the drive is so strong it will eventually resurface. As Pitchfork alluded in his interviews, people will say and agree to anything to ensure they are released
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Problem is the UK is run by people who don't care about community safety or victims' rights. This is true regardless of who wins elections. The justice system needs to punish crime, but it is overrun with staff who prioritise rapists and killers over families and communities. Unless that changes Britain will remain a crime riddled dump.
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
Problem is the UK is run by people who don't care about community safety or victims' rights. This is true regardless of who wins elections. The justice system needs to punish crime, but it is overrun with staff who prioritise rapists and killers over families and communities. Unless that changes Britain will remain a crime riddled dump.
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Or we need to return to a society that looks out for each other, rather than only caring about our own lives.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
giphy.webp


As long as we are members of the council of Europe we will not have capital punishment.

He has had access to the public unsupervised since 2017, and carried out some of his creepy behaviour of gifting chocolates to a female supermarket worker before he was granted parole.

His modus operandi for his crimes wasn't building connections but pulling young girls off the street. We don't know if his behaviour reflects him changing his MO or is something more innocent, he is a perverted double murderer but he is also probably a very sad lonely man after spending most of his adult life in jail.

But the conditions of his release mean he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and that is correct and proper for the protection of the public.

This isn't a failure of the system.

Even if we were able to change the law, there is no chance he would get executed because we can't pass laws that are retroactive.
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Very true about retroactive punishment, I was lamenting that when his crimes were committed we couldn't execute him, not suggesting we should do it now (not that his death would be a loss). As for the Council of Europe, we can always leave that too, and Japan and the USA are observers at the Council but still have the death penalty. No reason we couldn't do the same. Any law or international membership organisation that prevents us from protecting young girls from being kidnapped, raped and killed isn't worth belonging to.
 
deano ou812 said:
The yanks have it right in certain situations,death penalty by electrocution or lethal injection I’d give this cnut both ..
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Very true, and God Bless the USA for properly punishing criminals. We would have the same system in the UK, but in 1964, Labour got elected and abolished the death penalty against public opinion. They did so just in time to save the lives of Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, who had spent a good part of the year prior kidnapping and killing kids. Successive governments of both parties have ignored public opinion on restoring the death penalty.
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
Very true about retroactive punishment, I was lamenting that when his crimes were committed we couldn't execute him, not suggesting we should do it now (not that his death would be a loss). As for the Council of Europe, we can always leave that too, and Japan and the USA are observers at the Council but still have the death penalty. No reason we couldn't do the same. Any law or international membership organisation that prevents us from protecting young girls from being kidnapped, raped and killed isn't worth belonging to.
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How do you work out that it protects girls being raped and murdered?

Does it still happen in the USA and Japan? Does it still happen in China?

Does rape and murder occur at a lower rate in the USA?
 
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