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M18CTID said:gazmedina said:M18CTID said:I guess that makes you a bigger blue than me then.
As for being patronising, behave. It's not me that's telling people what they can and can't sing.
When did I say what people can and can't sing? I just said that one of the reasons why the atmosphere won't pick up is because the rest of the stadium isn't going to join in singing about David Moyes being a paedophile after about twenty lads in 111 try and get it going for the fifth time that evening. But when the singing section gets Blue Moon going it tends to get around the entire stadium. I'm part of that singing section and believe that we have most of the responsibility for generating an atmosphere.
You sing whatever you like mate - but it's true that there's a handful of lads around 111 trying to torture another variation of a song about Moyes or United out of anything and have a good giggle among themselves while the rest of the stand just can't be bothered with it. You're right that rivalry holds its place in football and chanting, and I'd certainly agree that a good dig can be really entertaining, it's just that when the balance gets tipped so that over 50% of songs are about United then a lot of people are just not going to bother. They'll just watch the football instead. Have a look around if you don't believe me: the atmosphere has never been quite this obsessed with United in all my time going.
Firstly - how have you arrived at the stat that over 50% of songs in 111 are about United? I'd wager that it's less than that.
Secondly - even if it is over 50% does that mean if we get it down to 49% then that's acceptable?
Thirdly - "You're right that rivalry holds its place in football and chanting, and I'd certainly agree that a good dig can be really entertaining". So it's ok to sing songs about United after all? But only when it suits you it seems.
1. As an estimate I'd say that at the moment at home games about half of our songs are about United. If you toss in the songs which are ostensibly about City but carry some express reference to United in (Jaap Stam, Phil Jones, Etc.) then I would say that figure is comfortably over 50%.
2. In my opinion that would still be too high.
3. It would suit me just to chant significantly less about United. I think I've made that pretty clear. If you were a bit less touchy and didn't respond to suggestions that we chant a bit too much about United with "song police", "what we can and can't sing", "what percentage is acceptable" "when it suits you" you'd probably just see my point that - speaking for myself and judging by the others around me - the balance isn't right. It's got to the point where I don't sing anything about United because I'm just bored of it. It didn't always used to be like that. What's changed?