Common sense or ethically wrong

[Ancient Citizen]

It’s not ethically wrong. A nation has every right to control its borders. It is stupid though (at least as devised by Priti Patel). It will only last a couple of years in its current format. And before anyone says...we are a very different nation to Canada and Australia. I just hope the EU reciprocate by insisting all expats are capable of speaking the native language.

For workers yes, I'd agree, this policy is directed at them, I don't think retirees are included.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

That awful moment of truth when you realise your Tory dream is over.

Yes, and it must be even more frustrating that the dream will be going on for at least 10 years.

 

[Saddleworth2]

For workers yes, I'd agree, this policy is directed at them, I don't think retirees are included.

Is there a different point system for retirees?

 

[Ban-jani]

Reciprocation?
What about Brits who want to retire to Spain but don't sprechen zee lingo?

They should - I would if I moved to another country.

 

[grunge]

Is there a different point system for retirees?

not really looked recently but from my understanding retirees wanting to retire to another country just need a fuck ton of cash to buy a house and in the bank after.

Edit: Canada for example, You just cant move there to retire. its just not a thing.

https://www.worldfirst.com/uk/blog/your-money/living-abroad/how-to-retire-to-canada/

 

[Blue Mist]

not really looked recently but from my understanding retirees wanting to retire to another country just need a fuck ton of cash to buy a house and in the bank after.

Edit: Canada for example, You just cant move there to retire. its just not a thing.

https://www.worldfirst.com/uk/blog/your-money/living-abroad/how-to-retire-to-canada/

Australia is another. To protect their health care system being bogged down by geriatrics like me I cannot go for longer than 6 months at a time. My son, wife and soon to be grandson are out there but the cut off age for being able to live there is 35.
It doesn't matter how much in savings I have, I wont be allowed to stay.

 

[Len Rum]

Yes, and it must be even more frustrating that the dream will be going on for at least 10 years.

Nail on head mate.
If you voted Tory only to realise you'd let in a bunch of right wing populists.

 

[Blue Hefner]

What problem are they actually trying to solve?

We aren’t going to deport anyone so those that can’t get school places still won’t be able to, those that apparently can’t recognise their high street still won’t be able to and NHS waiting lists won’t be going down

The U.K. is almost at full employment and wages are apparently rising. So what’s the problem?

If people are in low paid jobs the Tory message used to be ‘get on your bike’. It’s a supply and demand issue. Typically cutting off the labor market isn’t a good idea

It seems to me to be reactionary. Being seen to do something, anything.

If school places are a problem then build more schools. If low pay is the issue, pay the public sector more. How are they getting on with the 40 hospitals. China did a couple in a week so we must be making some progress

 

[Chippy_boy]

That awful moment of truth when you realise your Tory dream is over.

When do you realise your Labour dream is over? Is the 46 years ...and counting... since the last loony lefty Labour government, not long enough?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Reciprocation?
What about Brits who want to retire to Spain but don't sprechen zee lingo?

I think you'll find this nuance has been spotted, just once or twice, in the last 4 years. What on earth is the point in going over and over and over the same lame old ground again and again? We're leaving. The end.