Congrats Lionesses

Crooked_rain said:
Well done to them, well deserved. You would think it will have a positive impact on womens football in England in terms of viewership but I wouldn’t be so sure though. With the premier league starting this weekend and world cup coming up, all eyes will be back on that.

Probably inspired plenty of young girls to play though.

Gotta be honest though, the quality of play is mostly dreadful still at this point. But if it’s inspiring new generations of young players, it’ll only get better. The quality in the likes of womens MMA shot up rapidly when it was getting good backing.

Where as womens tennis for example doesn’t have a gulf in ability between men and women. I know the women can’t beat the men because of physical advantages, but relatively speaking, the skill level of male and female tennis is an excellent standard on both sides. Womens football isn’t there yet, but I think it’ll improve rapidly, it already has been.
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Well I’m not sure. Ok they haven’t the physicality or stamina but that’s ok as they don’t want to be the female equivalent of Burnley (pre Vinnie of course). I saw some exceptional skill. The first against Germany was assisted by our very own Keira Walsh with a sublime ball that KDB would have been proud of. The scorer, Toone, made a beautifully timed run and then 1 on 1 lobbed the keeper. I know of some recently departed male players that would have been very proud of that finish.
Russo backheel, Georgia’s winner vs Spain - some really memorable moments.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
It’s their nickname. They can call themselves whatever they want. The joys of living in a democracy.

Btw I’ve heard the England team referred to as the 3 Lions
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And it is good marketing. People will think what they will of it but when the population hears "Lionesses" they know exactly who is being referenced.
 
ElleBla said:
The game is now officially Sold Out after less than 24 hours!





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This could be quiet a good match. I expect England will give the US Women a better game than the last time they met.

The US, while still good and a dangerous opponent, seems to be in a state of flux. The "Golden Generation" is aging. Many of them are north of 30. Some are well last 30 but still trying to hang on and be a part of the team. Rapinoe comes to mind, she is good but not great anymore. Personally, I think she just enjoys the soapbox and notoriety being in the team beings her.

Lavelle is still young and extremely dangerous. I believe she is 26 or 27 and in her prime. Much of the younger players are good but lack the experience of the the older women. Playing against the Central American teams is good and well but nothing like the Lionesses have just done. They've player against the best, bar the US and come out on top.
 
Keep the Faith said:
IT annoys me that not one mention has been made of her service to the team, Jill and Ellen who played got special recognition but not one word for Steph.
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Yes Steph should be mentioned in the same breath as Kelly Smith but the British Scousewashing Corporation (Gooners for Women) promote their own.
 
Just watched 'Football Focus' and the piece at the end about the Lionesses. I think every player played their part in the victory, but it's seeming the media just want too pick a few !
Jill Scott in the Studio picked out Keira Walsh has England star player while the rest made no comment. Then on to a piece with Russo which isn't a problem, but again focusing on the utd players, with one comment (looking at iconic pictures from the final) "look the Manchester girls" a picture of Russo & Toone !
Also comments about her and Toone changing the Quarter final verse Spain, the game changed against Spain with Alex Greenwood coming on at left back along with Chloe Kelly , Russo and Toone !
 
Interesting to see where these England and now suddenly successful players associate themselves; Kelly at QPR, Hemp at Norwich etc.
 
There's an article in the DT with Leah W outlining they have the fame but not the money. The money will come when the game is watched by hordes of fans. You can climb Kilimanjaro, trumpet the women's game to the folk up there, but until the game is wholly merchantable to the point of providing as much pace, power and excitement as the men's game the money will stay in sponsors' pockets. Those within the women's game seem to think they are entitled to the same whatever as the men just because. I intend to watch all the City Women's games at The Academy this season but I think there will not be one game that provides as much entertainment as that Alkmaar v Dundee game last night!
 
I was just scrolling through my Instagram feed. There were a couple of reels from England Women and photos from MCWFC accounts featuring our Chloe. I am so happy for her. She's worked her arse off after her injury to be where she is now.

What made an impression on me is in many of the dressing room videos after the ladies won and they are going "buck wild " and deservedly so, you don't see much of Chloe.

Obviously, I don't know her. She appears to be a shy young woman from a working class/lower middle class upbringing who seems to keep to herself. And then, one of the videos showed her on the grandstand after the parade dancing and seeming to to enjoy herself. It brought a tear to my eye. Yes, I'm getting soft in my middle age. And yes, I've had a couple of glasses of wine.
 
Keep the Faith said:
IT annoys me that not one mention has been made of her service to the team, Jill and Ellen who played got special recognition but not one word for Steph.
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There's a few paragraphs yet to be written on this matter. Steph has been excluded from the latest England squad. Wiegmann has adopted the old managerial cop out by suggesting 'the door remains open'! If Steph is fully fit, which I think she is, then I cannot see, comparing the rest of the defence, why she isn't included. I think Wiegmann has a system that puts Williamson at the heart of the defence, so no room for Steph. Why not on the bench? More to this than hits the RDAHMeedya gossip pages.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
There's a few paragraphs yet to be written on this matter. Steph has been excluded from the latest England squad. Wiegmann has adopted the old managerial cop out by suggesting 'the door remains open'! If Steph is fully fit, which I think she is, then I cannot see, comparing the rest of the defence, why she isn't included. I think Wiegmann has a system that puts Williamson at the heart of the defence, so no room for Steph. Why not on the bench? More to this than hits the RDAHMeedya gossip pages.
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But she's started the last two city games on the bench and only played 13 minutes against Real Madrid. I doubt she's going to be considered for England until she's started some games for us.
 
Mon Autre said:
But she's started the last two city games on the bench and only played 13 minutes against Real Madrid. I doubt she's going to be considered for England until she's started some games for us.
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True, but there should be a place on the England bench for her. The experience she will bring to the dressing room would be immense. I fear that Wiegmann wants to bring a close to her England career as she doesn't see her taking a CB berth, and doesn't want to be the bearer of grim news. Instead there's the old cop out of stringing a player along with the notion that 'the door remains open' but ne'er the opportunity of walking through, and waits for the player to announce her retirement from international football. I think if the entire CB first choices went down with beri-beri she still would find alternatives to Steph. I don't know, but I have a feeling that Steph has always been outspoken and speaks her mind, something that might grate on a few.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
True, but there should be a place on the England bench for her. The experience she will bring to the dressing room would be immense. I fear that Wiegmann wants to bring a close to her England career as she doesn't see her taking a CB berth, and doesn't want to be the bearer of grim news. Instead there's the old cop out of stringing a player along with the notion that 'the door remains open' but ne'er the opportunity of walking through, and waits for the player to announce her retirement from international football. I think if the entire CB first choices went down with beri-beri she still would find alternatives to Steph. I don't know, but I have a feeling that Steph has always been outspoken and speaks her mind, something that might grate on a few.
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Wiegmann was thinking more for the future I think. Had Wubben-Moy and Carter as backup defenders to give them experience of an international tournament as well as Greenwood if she needed more experience. Can't really argue with any of her selections seeing as we won the thing. She has her own trusted coaching staff so why add in another voice to that mix so late? Not much room for sentiment in football anymore.
 
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