Conscription. Would you fight?

St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
At last-you have admitted what a fucking coward you are. Your bonding is with the guvnors isn't it..The hard boys!! YCNMIU....

What an utterly ignorant,humourless tool you are.
Do you even know what 'conscientious' means?
Posters have told me what a trolling pain in the arse you were,but I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.
How right they were.

You keep listening to your bluemoon mates yeah,let them keep massaging your ego..As for me..a troll?? No just because I don't agree with certain things or need my cock sucking by fellow bluemooners to make myself feel good you call me a troll!!! deary me...grow up

-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:30 pm --

Josh Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
At last-you have admitted what a fucking coward you are. Your bonding is with the guvnors isn't it..The hard boys!! YCNMIU....

There is plenty of cowards "fighting" in the army at the moment bud.

Josh - how do you know that? Please provide me with evidence otherwise you are just making statements that you cannot co-oberate.

People I went to school with who were shitbags and would bully when they could get away with it but would also become bullied when someone "harder" was giving them shit.

These are the same shitbags who start trouble when they are on leave and try and act hard or the big man after a few stellas.

These are just certain indivduals ofcourse.

Using something you said about people in a firm being cowards because theres loads of them but it's say in afgan for example the British army have more people in their "firm" and better weapons than the afgan rebels. The British army can wipe out people from miles away with just the push of a button, you don't have to be brave for that.

I am not saying the army is full of cowards but I know for a fact there is a fair few in the ranks.
 
I don't think anyone that is fighting on the front lines could be described as a coward, no matter what they were like in school. Wghen you gain a few years Josh, you'll realise that your school days were just that, people change enormously throughout their late teens and early twenties.
 
Josh Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
What an utterly ignorant,humourless tool you are.
Do you even know what 'conscientious' means?
Posters have told me what a trolling pain in the arse you were,but I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.
How right they were.

You keep listening to your bluemoon mates yeah,let them keep massaging your ego..As for me..a troll?? No just because I don't agree with certain things or need my cock sucking by fellow bluemooners to make myself feel good you call me a troll!!! deary me...grow up

-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:30 pm --

Josh Blue said:
There is plenty of cowards "fighting" in the army at the moment bud.

Josh - how do you know that? Please provide me with evidence otherwise you are just making statements that you cannot co-oberate.

People I went to school with who were shitbags and would bully when they could get away with it but would also become bullied when someone "harder" was giving them shit.

These are the same shitbags who start trouble when they are on leave and try and act hard or the big man after a few stellas.

These are just certain indivduals ofcourse.

Using something you said about people in a firm being cowards because theres loads of them but it's say in afgan for example the British army have more people in their "firm" and better weapons than the afgan rebels. The British army can wipe out people from miles away with just the push of a button, you don't have to be brave for that.

I am not saying the army is full of cowards but I know for a fact there is a fair few in the ranks.

This is mostly true although the RAF can wipe people out from much further away.
 
Josh Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
What an utterly ignorant,humourless tool you are.
Do you even know what 'conscientious' means?
Posters have told me what a trolling pain in the arse you were,but I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.
How right they were.

You keep listening to your bluemoon mates yeah,let them keep massaging your ego..As for me..a troll?? No just because I don't agree with certain things or need my cock sucking by fellow bluemooners to make myself feel good you call me a troll!!! deary me...grow up

-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:30 pm --

Josh Blue said:
There is plenty of cowards "fighting" in the army at the moment bud.

Josh - how do you know that? Please provide me with evidence otherwise you are just making statements that you cannot co-oberate.

People I went to school with who were shitbags and would bully when they could get away with it but would also become bullied when someone "harder" was giving them shit.

These are the same shitbags who start trouble when they are on leave and try and act hard or the big man after a few stellas.

These are just certain indivduals ofcourse.

Using something you said about people in a firm being cowards because theres loads of them but it's say in afgan for example the British army have more people in their "firm" and better weapons than the afgan rebels. The British army can wipe out people from miles away with just the push of a button, you don't have to be brave for that.

I am not saying the army is full of cowards but I know for a fact there is a fair few in the ranks.

Josh..You are comparing the british army to a set of football hooligans! There are bullies as you say in all walks of life and not just the Army. We have debated the reason time and time again why we are in Afghanistan. Acclrding to Skashion and fetlock it is because of oil etc etc. All I would say is ask the families of those who died on 09/11...07/07....
War is devisive for sure but sometimes it is justified.
 
SWP's back said:
I don't think anyone that is fighting on the front lines could be described as a coward, no matter what they were like in school. Wghen you gain a few years Josh, you'll realise that your school days were just that, people change enormously throughout their late teens and early twenties.

Some do although maturity takes some people a very long time.
 
pauldominic said:
SWP's back said:
I don't think anyone that is fighting on the front lines could be described as a coward, no matter what they were like in school. Wghen you gain a few years Josh, you'll realise that your school days were just that, people change enormously throughout their late teens and early twenties.

Some do although maturity takes some people a very long time.
I wish you the best on your quest.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
mancitymick said:
de niro said:
i'm old but if a country declared war on us then i'd join up and nuke the fucking lot in half an hour, job done home for corrie.

Would you carpet bomb them?

Only if they had underlaying problems that needed to be tacked down and gripped.
I draw the lino at that.

Skirting the issue?
 
SWP's back said:
-dabz- said:
Did anyone watch that documentary a few years ago, I think it was presented by Grub Smith? In it, he mentioned how during the second world war, a staggering percentage of soldiers actually fired over the heads of the enemy because even under extreme circumstances, the act of killing another human being was a step they just couldn't take. Were they cowards? No, just normal joes who had no real wish to be there but for the fear of being called cowards if they refused to go.
If only they knew at the time that the father and grandfather of two future American presidents was a major player in the bank that financed the Nazi war machine. Or, how would they feel if they knew about the Coca Cola company sponsering the Hitler youth at the time?
I think they would have gone and give their lives anyway because they were more afraid of being called cowards....
Yes it was total bollocks.
If your referring to the documentary and it's findings, I cant comment on it's validity, it was a while back.
The other stuff however-
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/se ... ndworldwar</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Companies_That_surprisingly_Collaborated_With_the_Nazis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/1 ... _the_Nazis</a>
 
-dabz- said:
SWP's back said:
-dabz- said:
Did anyone watch that documentary a few years ago, I think it was presented by Grub Smith? In it, he mentioned how during the second world war, a staggering percentage of soldiers actually fired over the heads of the enemy because even under extreme circumstances, the act of killing another human being was a step they just couldn't take. Were they cowards? No, just normal joes who had no real wish to be there but for the fear of being called cowards if they refused to go.
If only they knew at the time that the father and grandfather of two future American presidents was a major player in the bank that financed the Nazi war machine. Or, how would they feel if they knew about the Coca Cola company sponsering the Hitler youth at the time?
I think they would have gone and give their lives anyway because they were more afraid of being called cowards....
Yes it was total bollocks.
If your referring to the documentary and it's findings, I cant comment on it's validity, it was a while back.
The other stuff however-
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/se ... ndworldwar</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Companies_That_surprisingly_Collaborated_With_the_Nazis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/1 ... _the_Nazis</a>
The documentary. I watched it, was gobsmacked and then saw it was ripped apart by all and sundry.

I am not arsed which companies collaborated with the Nazi's either. Free market and all that and it is not as though they had any direct say in anything. If we were to frown upon Cocacola now it would be silly in the extreme.

Fuck it, the Pope was in the Hitler Youth don't forget. It's hardly set him back.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Josh..You are comparing the british army to a set of football hooligans! There are bullies as you say in all walks of life and not just the Army. We have debated the reason time and time again why we are in Afghanistan. Acclrding to Skashion and fetlock it is because of oil etc etc. All I would say is ask the families of those who died on 09/11...07/07....
War is devisive for sure but sometimes it is justified.

Very well said mate!
 

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