What's interesting reading this thread is how far people's expectations have dropped from early season. A draw away at spurs is now the best most people dare hope for. And where's this optimism that we can pinch a draw there and then win on Saturday come from? We drew at home against Hull, Fulham and Burnley, so surely a point against Sunderland would be no disgrace? I don't want a draw at spurs, I want a win. I want 3 points against Sunderland too and a draw would be another bad result. But, considering our record we must be odds on to draw both games and, as someone else has said, it's a good job we won some of our early games or else we'd be looking at the wrong end of the table. Draw on Weds and it's 12 points from 10 games, which is bang on form for 45 points come the end of the season. So in answer to the OP. No. A draw at spurs is not a good point. If we have any hope at all of breaking into the top 4, we have to win.