Cook is a clever guy and given a lot of unfair stick!

Lemmy said:
Didsbury Dave said:
That actually sums it up rather sucinctly. I think his days are numbered.
Cobblers, if nothing else 'football is a business' - well done Cook.

Well done for stating the bleedin obvious?

The guy has hung his hat on Hughes and 18 months has said in a round about way short of admitting he got the appointment wrong and that his own judgement on him was flawed and I wish he would be man enough to say he got it wrong.

That's showing a bit of honesty and at least he could be given credit for his mistake.

If he gets Mancini wrong as well then we should be able to say with confidence that he cannot be party to the choice of a good manager at this club and rather than getting rid of Mancini he should think long and hard about getting rid of himself.

I have always maintained that a good CEO knows how to pick a manager that gets the best out the players and resources at his disposal.
 
mancity1 said:
Lemmy said:
Cobblers, if nothing else 'football is a business' - well done Cook.

Well done for stating the bleedin obvious?

The guy has hung his hat on Hughes and 18 months has said in a round about way short of admitting he got the appointment wrong and that his own judgement on him was flawed and I wish he would be man enough to say he got it wrong.

That's showing a bit of honesty and at least he could be given credit for his mistake.

If he gets Mancini wrong as well then we should be able to say with confidence that he cannot be party to the choice of a good manager at this club and rather than getting rid of Mancini he should think long and hard about getting rid of himself.

I have always maintained that a good CEO knows how to pick a manager that gets the best out the players and resources at his disposal.
The job CEO should not exust in the first place,not a go at cook it just shouldn't,if we bring in a DOF aswell that will further dilute what is a non-existant job.
 
all the fantstic work that has been done in merchandising/marketing/fan liason etc is ignored due to the several embarrasing and highly public cock ups that Cook has been responsible for.
Im sure he is a highly intelligent man, but his gaffes have been those of a junior halfwit - not a hugely paid CEO of a major business. The decison of whether to handle the PR is his alone. Maybe he thought it better he was seen to front what was always going to be a difficult press conference - it was patently obvious the media were going to want their say about the manner of Hughes sacking. So having taken the decision to handle it, he should have done so well - and he did not.

Ive no agenda agaisnt Mr Cook - far from it, I think the time and effort he has put in in attending many supporters functions has been exceptional, and where city are in terms of the kit and its absolutely top class marketing is a joy. But handling our public image has been piss poor. The press have their knives out anyway - we are threatening the cosy top 4, we have new money, we could threaten to shatter the image we have established as being a bit of a joke and so mean our label doesnt fit any more - but that needs a careful strategy and day to day management - which if in place, is undermined by these regular cock up. It needs sorting. Either Cook starts getting it right in public or he lets some else handle it. Because we cannot afford to keep serving up ammunition to our knockers
 
Taken from the urban dictionary

garry

Modern common London rhyming slang. Short for garry glitter which rhymes with shitter. The arsehole, the bum, the rectum.

"She/he was getting a severe portion right up the garry"
 
warpig said:
he is a business man, not a football man. that is his fundamental weakness and it is blatantly obvious. cant see him at city much longer tbh, next mistake and hes out.


The Guy is a joke and totally embarassing him,Marwood and Kidd will hopefully be next before they cause any more embarassment to the club.
 
To be fair to Garry, whilst he may be an intelligent and experienced businessman, he isnt a football man and in my opinion, doesnt understand how the game works which is leading him to embarrass himself/ enrage others when he is put under the spotlight

He isn't doing it on purpose and some of the stick he gets on here is disgusting.
 
flb said:
warpig said:
i have met once cook, seemed a decent bloke, gift of the gab, a charmer etc. done a lot to bring city closer to the fans, but...

i would say having a CEO that is good at handling the press is quite important. just my opinion. as is the ability to handle large players transfers between clubs. one thing for certain is that citys image is now tarnished and the press have got the knives out for him. when the dust has settled and the sheik decides he wants to give the club a 'new' image, cook will be the one to go. he was the mouth piece at the press conference, he will be the fall guy.
It would be a shame if he were to go-that blonb piece Vicky kloss should become his press correspondant

And for some people to class him as a trainer salesman is just crass.

You do know that Vicky is a blue angel, don't you? 7 years at the club and fluent in Latin. Ideally qualified to succeed Garry (should he be promoted)
 
johnny crossan said:
flb said:
It would be a shame if he were to go-that blonb piece Vicky kloss should become his press correspondant

And for some people to class him as a trainer salesman is just crass.

You do know that Vicky is a blue angel, don't you? 7 years at the club and fluent in Latin. Ideally qualified to succeed Garry (should he be promoted)
If she was the one that shut the press up everytime she jumped in to bail cook out then i agree.
Is that the one we are talking about.????????????
 
El Boy Wonder said:
To be fair to Garry, whilst he may be an intelligent and experienced businessman, he isnt a football man and in my opinion, doesnt understand how the game works which is leading him to embarrass himself/ enrage others when he is put under the spotlight

He isn't doing it on purpose and some of the stick he gets on here is disgusting.

Sums it up for me.

His inexperience within the beautiful game has been his achilles heel, but should not be the basis for for the amount and depth of abuse he has suffered on here.
 
projectriver said:
I was pretty unimpressed with Cook's credentials when he took over and he hasn't let me down. I thought it was hilarious that our own website highlighted the criticism in the press today. It should, once again, have been so simple. Like with Kaka, you prepare a perfectly drafted statement and follow that line and say nothing more.

The owners did nothing wrong really. Having invested heavily they wanted a new manager - that is their prerogative. All that was wrong with the management of the newsflow. They should have denied and continued to deny until Sunday afternoon and then announced it. All they had to say was, Hughes has done a good job but we didn't feel the progress was sufficient given the quality of the playing staff and the spend. We wish Hughes well in the future. Instead we have Cook debating the league position of teams that have got 70 points in the past, the meaning of "trajectory" and allowing himself to be drawn and dug deeper into relationship issues with the press. Its just embarrassing and unfortunately does matter because it sets the whole scene around a club. Nothing three wins on the bounce wont fix but the pressure is on.

Lets be clear, we'd all be moaning like hell if they hadn't got a man signed up before giving Hughes the boot. That's life and happens in any high paid role.

How ironic that right now those same owners have a top headhunter engaged to find Cook's replacement behind his back. The lead in time will be lengthy (as most businesses will hold an executive to a period of "gardening leave") but I am certain the search is on. There is simply no way the Arabs would put up with Cooks embarrassing "communication" errors. Like Hughes, the investment on the non-playing side has been significant and I'm sure that they will feel the progress in business and image terms has been unimpressive. He's not "their man" and that will also be key. And expect a new press team too - one that isn't allowed to be on holiday on the day of such a major announcement (according to one of the podcasts one of the two in the press office wasn't even around on Saturday - ludicrous planning).

So, building the multi million pound Jordan brand at Nike does not look good on a cv then? The club always show what is happening in the press, good or bad in that section and I guess you can argue whether it is a good thing or not.

The management of the newsflow was disrupted by two leaks, one from Hiddink/Abramovich and one from an insider at the club regarding Mancini. Apart from perhaps signing up to a NDA with Hiddink, there is nothing much the club could have done. Leaks happen in every business/government etc.

The club were right, given the results/performances the ‘trend’ or trajectory as Cook calls it, would not have delivered 70 points. As football fans with our ‘jumper for goalposts’ ideal of how football is this wonderful, community driven charity, obviously Cook’s business-speak does not necessarily sit well. However, face facts, football is a business and not some transcendental, quasi-religious panacea.

So what proof do you have the club are looking to replace him? Don’t get me wrong, if he goes, then so be it, I’m backing the owners as always. What I do find a tad nauseating is referring to our owners as “The Arabs”. This seems to imply their nationality defines who they are which is borderline racist in my humble opinion.

I would welcome a more professional press team though. I’m Ms Kloss does a very good job (couldn’t possibly comment because I have never had any dealings with her) and one must say, the club has come on in leaps and bounds since the days of the tyrannical Tyrrell!

We are on a journey at the moment and at the moment, as long as the owners are happy, then I’m happy with Mr Cook. Some of the initiatives that he has been credited with have been good for us in my view.
 
The club were right, given the results/performances the ‘trend’ or trajectory as Cook calls it, would not have delivered 70 points.
They looked at it through "Football Manager 2010 "eyes & have unknowingly to them taken a fuckin huge gamble.
The one saving grace is he can spend £100 million to help things along.
20 of the last 39 managers installed at Christmas failed to improve the league position of the club they inherited,10 equalled the position the club was currently in & 9 improved the position of the club.
ANY stat can be twisted by anyone willing to take the time to do it.
Let's pray this comes off.
 
bluemanc said:
The club were right, given the results/performances the ‘trend’ or trajectory as Cook calls it, would not have delivered 70 points.
They looked at it through "Football Manager 2010 "eyes & have unknowingly to them taken a fuckin huge gamble.
The one saving grace is he can spend £100 million to help things along.
20 of the last 39 managers installed at Christmas failed to improve the league position of the club they inherited,10 equalled the position the club was currently in & 9 improved the position of the club.
ANY stat can be twisted by anyone willing to take the time to do it.
Let's pray this comes off.
Genuine question for you mate, given our performances, sequence of draws, throwing away of two and three goal leads, could you see us realistically achieving 70pts this season under Hughes? We even did our best to feck it up vs the Mackems!
 
strongbowholic said:
bluemanc said:
They looked at it through "Football Manager 2010 "eyes & have unknowingly to them taken a fuckin huge gamble.
The one saving grace is he can spend £100 million to help things along.
20 of the last 39 managers installed at Christmas failed to improve the league position of the club they inherited,10 equalled the position the club was currently in & 9 improved the position of the club.
ANY stat can be twisted by anyone willing to take the time to do it.
Let's pray this comes off.
Genuine question for you mate, given our performances, sequence of draws, throwing away of two and three goal leads, could you see us realistically achieving 70pts this season under Hughes? We even did our best to feck it up vs the Mackems!
We will never know now, it's pointless even thinking about it.
But i'll tell you one thing, the people that have made this decision or the ONE person which is what i think has happened has been badly advised if they have taken this course based on "trends trajectory" or some other buisness science reason.
No wonder cook looked shocked & bewildered, he didn't predict the shitstorm that has hit him coming did he.
We need to be lucky with this & as i said i'm praying we are.
 
Come 31/01/2010 (not there is anything significant int hat date, just that it's a little way off) this will all have blown over and we'll all be arguing whether or not Mancini should be playing Bellamy instead of Robinho.

Storm and teacup spring to mind.
 
bluemanc said:
johnny crossan said:
You do know that Vicky is a blue angel, don't you? 7 years at the club and fluent in Latin. Ideally qualified to succeed Garry (should he be promoted)
If she was the one that shut the press up everytime she jumped in to bail cook out then i agree.
Is that the one we are talking about.????????????

Vicky Kloss is that lady, Head of Communications
 
Genuine question for you mate, given our performances, sequence of draws, throwing away of two and three goal leads, could you see us realistically achieving 70pts this season under Hughes? We even did our best to feck it up vs the Mackems!
Precisely. Regardless of how Cook handled it, something needed to change and they did it. Perhaps something a bit smoother could have happened, but that's just how it goes sometimes.

Let's just look forward to the rest of the season with Mancini.
 

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