Corners

[sh249]

Not sure if this is correct but was told on Sunday that the last time we scored from a corner was arsenal away? If true how many corners without scoring is that and is it a PL record?

people keep saying about 200 corners since we scored directly from one.

I think we have gone from the team scoring most from corners to the team that has scored the least, and that's from a team that gets more corners than anyone else, it's a mystery to me why this is, we obviously don't practice corners,we could do with a separate pitch at the New cfa just for corner practice, we have a pitch for everything else.

2 things - you have to remember that if you're the best at scoring from corners, any half decent coaching team will be saying "right lads, City are good at corners, here's what we need to do to nullify that threat" and secondly we've become incredibly shit at taking them. Bit of both imo. Throw in a dash of complacency (cos hey we're gonna score at some point arent we?) and a smidgen of 'who gives a fuck' (cos most of them dont really care about going up against a centrehalf) and that's about your recipe for total corner-based failure.

This is the most frustrating thing for me. Not having a great set-piece taker can happen; certainly wouldn't want us, for instance, to try and shoehorn Kolarov back in to the team just on the basis of him being ok at corners and free-kicks. But you do get the impression we simply don't care that much. 2-0 down on Sunday, about 5 minutes to go (plus injury time), and we have a situation where no-one can be arsed taking the corner and so we just allow Clichy to float one in - which was tantamount to saying, 'we don't give a fuck'. Lampard should have been straight over to take it, and we should have set it up properly to try and hit Kompany, Demichelis and Dzeko (think he was on). A goal then and it's game back on; instead, we just tossed off the opportunity - all the more criminal, given how we'd struggled to create a single chance in open play.

It's as though we somehow feel that set-piece work - both attacking and defending - is below us.

 

[shemnel]

Not sure if this is correct but was told on Sunday that the last time we scored from a corner was arsenal away? If true how many corners without scoring is that and is it a PL record?

people keep saying about 200 corners since we scored directly from one.

I think we have gone from the team scoring most from corners to the team that has scored the least, and that's from a team that gets more corners than anyone else, it's a mystery to me why this is, we obviously don't practice corners,we could do with a separate pitch at the New cfa just for corner practice, we have a pitch for everything else.

2 things - you have to remember that if you're the best at scoring from corners, any half decent coaching team will be saying "right lads, City are good at corners, here's what we need to do to nullify that threat" and secondly we've become incredibly shit at taking them. Bit of both imo. Throw in a dash of complacency (cos hey we're gonna score at some point arent we?) and a smidgen of 'who gives a fuck' (cos most of them dont really care about going up against a centrehalf) and that's about your recipe for total corner-based failure.

This is the most frustrating thing for me. Not having a great set-piece taker can happen; certainly wouldn't want us, for instance, to try and shoehorn Kolarov back in to the team just on the basis of him being ok at corners and free-kicks. But you do get the impression we simply don't care that much. 2-0 down on Sunday, about 5 minutes to go (plus injury time), and we have a situation where no-one can be arsed taking the corner and so we just allow Clichy to float one in - which was tantamount to saying, 'we don't give a fuck'. Lampard should have been straight over to take it, and we should have set it up properly to try and hit Kompany, Demichelis and Dzeko (think he was on). A goal then and it's game back on; instead, we just tossed off the opportunity - all the more criminal, given how we'd struggled to create a single chance in open play.

It's as though we somehow feel that set-piece work - both attacking and defending - is below us.

im not sure id be quite as cynical as to say there is a systemic lack of caring in the squad, im sure many of them want to win games as professionals, but i see very little passion for the fight in terms of set pieces. But hey, you could be right. It's a bizarre thing given teams dont score that many from corners but it does extend to free kicks sadly - both defending and attacking. Football is changing from tiki taka, to a more direct pace focused game, i hope we dont get left behind.

 

[Marvin]

Why are we taking our worst performance of the season as typical?

 

[sh249]

people keep saying about 200 corners since we scored directly from one.



2 things - you have to remember that if you're the best at scoring from corners, any half decent coaching team will be saying "right lads, City are good at corners, here's what we need to do to nullify that threat" and secondly we've become incredibly shit at taking them. Bit of both imo. Throw in a dash of complacency (cos hey we're gonna score at some point arent we?) and a smidgen of 'who gives a fuck' (cos most of them dont really care about going up against a centrehalf) and that's about your recipe for total corner-based failure.

This is the most frustrating thing for me. Not having a great set-piece taker can happen; certainly wouldn't want us, for instance, to try and shoehorn Kolarov back in to the team just on the basis of him being ok at corners and free-kicks. But you do get the impression we simply don't care that much. 2-0 down on Sunday, about 5 minutes to go (plus injury time), and we have a situation where no-one can be arsed taking the corner and so we just allow Clichy to float one in - which was tantamount to saying, 'we don't give a fuck'. Lampard should have been straight over to take it, and we should have set it up properly to try and hit Kompany, Demichelis and Dzeko (think he was on). A goal then and it's game back on; instead, we just tossed off the opportunity - all the more criminal, given how we'd struggled to create a single chance in open play.

It's as though we somehow feel that set-piece work - both attacking and defending - is below us.

im not sure id be quite as cynical as to say there is a systemic lack of caring in the squad, im sure many of them want to win games as professionals, but i see very little passion for the fight in terms of set pieces. But hey, you could be right. It's a bizarre thing given teams dont score that many from corners but it does extend to free kicks sadly - both defending and attacking. Football is changing from tiki taka, to a more direct pace focused game, i hope we dont get left behind.

I should have worded my post better - I meant that they don't care enough about set pieces specifically, not that there is a general 'we don't give a shit' attitude. Our successes over the past few seasons are enough to show that not to be true.

But the evidence we've seen over the course of the season so far does suggest - to me at least - that we don't put in the requisite work, particularly on attacking set-pieces. As you say, teams don't score that many from corners, but they still always represent an opportunity, and professionalism ought to dictate that we try and maximise that each and every time. To be as poor as we are at them in general is bad enough, but to simply toss off corners in the manner which we did towards the close of the match on Sunday was inexcusable.

 

[raymondkl92]

Yaya should be our first choice corner taker when back,took some good corners for the ivory Coast today

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Yaya should be our first choice corner taker when back,took some good corners for the ivory Coast today

Totally agree vinny mangala bony to hit in the box!

 

[Cellarite]

Why are we taking our worst performance of the season as typical?

Because it continually happens.

Roma at home - Nasri goes to take a corner. Navas (I think) and Zabba (I think) leg it over, Nasri plays a short corner, the three of them then proceed to play in a triangle looking for an opportunity to get a cross in before eventually the ball ends up with our keeper.

Bayern at home - Injury time is up at the end of the first half. We need to not lose or we're out of the tournament. The referee awards us a corner but has the whisltle ready to blow once we've taken it. Again we play a short corner and the ref blows up.

A more efficient and organised team would have had their manager screaming at them to make sure they hit the middle. It's so frustrating when you know full well that each and every corner will be completely wasted when we usually have a selection of Fernando, Mangala, Kompany, Demichelis, Toure, Dzeko and Lampard on the pitch at any given time.

Get Andy Hinchcliffe in as corner coach I say.

 

[Blue Feather]

I think some of the 'old-fashioned' attributes of the English game have been forgotten about in the era of 4-2-3-1, Diamonds, Christmas trees, 'false' number nines and being 'in the hole'. Maybe we could get Bobby Mac and Tommy Hutch to come back for some specialist corner routines

 

[Sergi0 Na5r1]

I think some of the 'old-fashioned' attributes of the English game have been forgotten about in the era of 4-2-3-1, Diamonds, Christmas trees, 'false' number nines and being 'in the hole'. Maybe we could get Bobby Mac and Tommy Hutch to come back for some specialist corner routines

False number 9s are still used in other European leagues in a 4-2-3-1, I think we've actually gone backwards with the False 9 to nearly a century ago when being an out-of-place striker was unthinkable.

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

I hope to see some variation tomorrow when we have a set play. If not, I think we might have to begin wondering what the fuck is occurring.