Coronavirus (2021) thread

[sky tot]

Can anyone post me out a positive lateral flow test?

Due to go to the in laws on the 27th and Boris looks to be letting me down.

Mate said pour lemon juice on it

 

[bluegray]

According to the report in The Times, you’d need to show an all clear on a LFT. How many days does it take to appear negative after having tested positive?

My son tested positive Thursday morning and was already showing negative on LFT yesterday. He had bad head for about 2 days and been fine since. Luckily he lives on his own and has spent last couple of days doing a bit of diy.

 

[blue65]

My son tested positive Thursday morning and was already showing negative on LFT yesterday. He had bad head for about 2 days and been fine since. Luckily he lives on his own and has spent last couple of days doing a bit of diy.

 

[Gabriel]

My son tested positive Thursday morning and was already showing negative on LFT yesterday. He had bad head for about 2 days and been fine since. Luckily he lives on his own and has spent last couple of days doing a bit of diy.

Good to know he’s on the mend. Just know that not everyone will show restraint and isolate for seven days if their conditions ease quickly.

 

[Chappie]

That fits in with my experience at the end of October, dog-rough for days 1-5, much better on day 6 and back to normal on day 7.

Normal you say !!!
There must be some dodgy characters around the Fylde coast if you're normal
Nice to see you on Sunday, have a good xmas

 

[BlueAnorak]

Projections rather than predictions, although the media have done that since day one so I’m not surprised others do too now.

Call it whatever you want.
You can call them horoscopes if you like as that would match the accuracy of their data models.

 

[J.G.Blue.]

Yeah, I mentioned that earlier. Quite right too, I’m right as rain and sat here like piffy on a rock bun.

Good use of the "Piffy on a rock bun" saying, I am always using it but people often look puzled when I say it.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Not sure why people are saying the hospital numbers are not going up. I posted the London data earlier to show they are quite a bit

London IS where Omicron hit first and hardest.

North West looks to be next and will go up more than it already is.

But the numbers are not looking like they will be huge.

More importantly they often do not come all at once. In Delta NW took it first. Other regions followed on.This meant the numbers were going up somewhere when others were falling.

Omicron might be faster as the spread might be. But right now Yorkshire is falling as North West is rising and they are side by side geographically. But Yorkshire's turn will come Likely as NW has fallen.

THis helps smooth out the waves so far. Hopefully Omicron is not that different.

The key will be what is happening in N Ireland. Hospital numbers fallimg mostly as the patients are young and do not stay weeks in hospital just days. So overall numbers do not shoot up as they do if dozens go in each day and then stay weeks as they did pre vaccine. The very low numbers over 60 catching Covid due to the vaccinations is the key to why this is happening. The boosters are working so far.

Need to compare with normal hospitalisations for this time of year to determine if they were admitted for Covid or it was picked up because they were admitted for something else but tested positive.
Huge difference.
The posted government stats don't tell us.

 

[Toney’s bookie]

Need to compare with normal hospitalisations for this time of year to determine if they were admitted for Covid or it was picked up because they were admitted for something else but tested positive.
Huge difference.
The posted government stats don't tell us.

That’s what I was alluding to here….

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-data-thread.352926/post-14462264

 

[johnnytapia]

He will be working in the big house, soon enough!

The big hoooooose

 

[Gabriel]

Good use of the "Piffy on a rock bun" saying, I am always using it but people often look puzled when I say it.

https://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pif1.htm

 

[johnnytapia]

That's not what's happening though. Majority of people in the country have had two vaccines, many a third and that number is increasing by a huge number every day. We have LFT's at disposal, we have vaccine passports, we have masks, we are doing a lot - not nothing.

If the NHS is in such a state, its up to respective governments to sort it out without punishing people who are doing everything asked of them. If they can't do that then they are not fit for purpose. Otherwise, this could be a winter occurance every single year.

Nearly a third of those eligible aren’t double jabbed.

 

[sky tot]

Tomorrow’s Mail are reporting the government have reduced isolation from 10 days to 7 days.

 

[johnnytapia]

Anyway, I'm off to Bill Bailey tomorrow, then City boxing day and a couple of other high risk activities in too including a sports event tonight, where I'm off now.

Was very sensible last fortnight as we had my mum's 80th at the weekend and didn't want to kill her.

I don't object if these events are stopped by government to protect society as a whole but I'm buggered if I see why sensible people should stay at home whilst the reckless get their fun, which is the implication of current policy.

So (triple jabbed) should be a fun week if I survive it without infection.

If you’re mum has had the booster why were you worried about not wanting to “kill her”?
going to a concert or a football match is not “high risk”. It increases the chance of catching covid but, if you’ve had your booster it is very very very low risk. Give the hyperbolic language a rest.

 

[meltonblue]

Call it whatever you want.
You can call them horoscopes if you like as that would match the accuracy of their data models.

It really wouldn’t, it’s just that the vast majority of the public don’t read or know all the models or realise the worst case is never ever something they suggest is likely to happen.

I imagine the modellers are as pissed off as everyone else is.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Estimate for UK cases tomorrow? 104,000

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Nearly a third of those eligible aren’t double jabbed.

81.9% of people aged 12+ in the UK are double jabbed.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

It really wouldn’t, it’s just that the vast majority of the public don’t read or know all the models or realise the worst case is never ever something they suggest is likely to happen.

I imagine the modellers are as pissed off as everyone else is.

Why do they lobby the government for more restrictions based on their worst case that is never going to happen then?

 

[meltonblue]

Why do they lobby the government for more restrictions based on their worst case that is never going to happen then?

They don’t. That people think they do is worrying in itself in terms of the motives of those suggesting that’s what might be happening (Nelson in the spectator being a good example)

This thread explains it pretty well, all the supporting data is still on the gov website too so you can see where the modelling ended up for previous waves either under or at their worst case at times.



For omicron, their modelling for low immune escape and high booster efficacy is looking the more likely, wouldn’t be surprised to see that revised down further though (I say in hope currently, but increasingly confident).

 

[johnnytapia]

81.9% of people aged 12+ in the UK are double jabbed.

Ah, it must be 70% of total population I read, not eligible population. Ta