Coronavirus (2021) thread

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The masks alone won’t make a huge difference although they offer useful protection for other people. It was more the populist messaging about “freedom day” etc that did for the restrictions in many areas well before they have been officially relaxed.

FWIW, a lot across both sides of the Pennines I noticed more ignoring of the rules on trains in the North West and that’s probably indicative of the bigger case numbers.

boris is a twat but he hasn’t come up with the term Freedom Day.

That is a word invented by the media and stuck.

it’s a shit phrase which divides society (which they seem to like to nowadays) for those who want to say it’s over and get back to normal from Monday and others to use it as an example of reckless term and govt are being reckless too quickly eliminating all restrictions In one go.

Pick a side and FIGHT!!!
 
The masks alone won’t make a huge difference although they offer useful protection for other people. It was more the populist messaging about “freedom day” etc that did for the restrictions in many areas well before they have been officially relaxed.

FWIW, a lot across both sides of the Pennines I noticed more ignoring of the rules on trains in the North West and that’s probably indicative of the bigger case numbers.
The Delta variant is both more contagious and more evasive. As soon as you exhaust the scope of vaccination, the only way to stop the spread is through the spread, everything else just affects the rate. Only through the spread it also evolves, and through treatment of some patients too. It will come to an end imo when our immunity gets upgraded. The only way to stop a self-replicating molecule spreading between hosts is when the hosts prevent it from replicating. Distance between hosts, and cloth barriers between hosts just modulates the rate. It keeps it at bay for a while. But ultimately we need to develop our immunity. Either through science or through infection. It will happen whatever we say.
 
Herd immunity wiped out the Wuhan virus. The alpha variant is also on the ropes.

Immunity is key to how this ends but it took until the alpha variant came along to realise that we were dealing with a moving target and how it moves is key to all this. We need to move to. Because we can no longer talk about immunity as if it is black and white. It's not the case that we are 100% immune or 0% immune. It's a grey area,getting greyer. Anyone can bring a virus home with them, and vaccinated or not the whole household is now vulnerable.

This wave will crash when immunity levels reach the level they need to in all groups and then to finish the whole thing off we'll need another vaccine otherwise that immunity gets eroded.
No it didn’t Marvin. The strict isolation facilities and procedures in Wuhan did most of that.

Immunity is the end point, particularly through vaccination, but herd immunity as a strategy has been a disaster for our Country. That’s a fact.
 
boris is a twat but he hasn’t come up with the term Freedom Day.

That is a word invented by the media and stuck.

it’s a shit phrase which divides society (which they seem to like to nowadays) for those who want to say it’s over and get back to normal from Monday and others to use it as an example of reckless term and govt are being reckless too quickly eliminating all restrictions In one go.

Pick a side and FIGHT!!!
They'll be plenty of fights tomorrow night,,got my popcorn ready
 
Well well well. What a surprise.

Having read the article I bet PMQs won’t count as essential government business but dressing up in high vis and doing factory visits will!!

Always the same with this lot. "Do as we say, not as we do".

It's lucky that there is always a pilot available, so that they don't have to follow the same rules as the rest of the plebs.Luckily there was also a different pilot for Gove when he got it too.
 
It was actually Jan and isn't a secret numerous companies have been involved.
Questions over Jaguar Land Rover testing process after covid outbreak (msn.com)
And?

Edit…actually think you’ve got crossed lines, I didn’t mean the scheme wasn’t around already, I meant that in the news stories yesterday when they all said that we should expect Boris and the others to have to self isolate they never mentioned that they were likely to be part of the scheme.
 
It was actually Jan and isn't a secret numerous companies have been involved.
Questions over Jaguar Land Rover testing process after covid outbreak (msn.com)

Those questions have increased since it was revealed that the UK regulator refused to formally approve the use of the same Lateral Flow rapid tests for daily testing of school pupils.

the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) told the government this week that it had not authorised the daily use of 30-minute tests due to concerns that they give people false reassurance if they test negative”.
 
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