Coronavirus (2021) thread

[jimharri]

Summed up perfectly. Just been in my local supermarket and thankfully the majority of people were wearing masks , sadly the gullible few weren’t and have obviously been taken in by Johnson’s bull shit .

Let's keep the political point scoring in the relevant thread in the politics sub forum.

 

[Marvin]

Today wont feel different than any other day, companies are enforcing their own internal policies as if it is law. Facemasks will be worn everywhere unless you've got the balls to just walk about without one.

Where is this freedom day when everyone is getting pinged back into their houses?

You want to engineer the biggest exit wave possible?

 

[mexico1970]

You want to engineer the biggest exit wave possible?

I'm just saying that freedom day isn't exactly freedom day.

 

[hammocity]

Good for them..90s will never be beaten;))

The saying goes "if you can remember the 60's you weren't there". My hedonism was in the punk era 70's, what a time to experience that, didn't last more than about 3 years but shook Britain up, the antidote to Thatchers rule. She imposed unbelievable extreme policies against the working class, Elvis Costello wrote this song about her, sums up my feelings.

Elvis Costello - Tramp the Dirt Down Lyrics & Meanings | SongMeanings

Tramp the Dirt Down Lyrics & Meanings: I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign / A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain / She spills with compassion, as that young child's / Face in her hands she grips / Can you imagine all that greed and avarice / Coming down on...

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[Craig]

Summed up perfectly. Just been in my local supermarket and thankfully the majority of people were wearing masks , sadly the gullible few weren’t and have obviously been taken in by Johnson’s bull shit .

I’m surprised people who are really worried about it aren’t wearing crash helmets for more protection. Difficult to truly believe the little shitty bit of cloth people put on makes that much difference. Would have been a little warm over the weekend though admittedly

 

[Craig]

Let's keep the political point scoring in the relevant thread in the politics sub forum.

Hardly political to say Johnson is full of shit is it? He’s a proven liar

 

[jimharri]

Hardly political to say Johnson is full of shit is it? He’s a proven liar

We'll agree to disagree on that. When you bring a politician into a post, it becomes political. Feel free to slag him, Star er, Farage, Sturgeon, whoever, in the proper thread.

 

[Craig]

We'll agree to disagree on that. When you bring a politician into a post, it becomes political. Feel free to slag him, Star er, Farage, Sturgeon, whoever, in the proper thread.

Fair enough, just didn’t think it was political to say he’s full of shit. I know it then escalates but didn’t think the biggest Torie fan could deny he’s a liar.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I'm honestly not going to pretend to be outraged/offended at this, if I was younger I'd be loving that and straight there.

I agree. To be fair for young people the risk of dying after taking illegal drugs is much higher than that from Covid (about 4000 drug deaths a year in the last stats I can find on Google for 2019). The level of drug abuse has soared during lockdown. Undoubtedly some young people will get long Covid and a very small number will end up dying from it but context is everything.

 

[inbetween]

It doesn't end. The virus is immune to our wishes and feelings. It is largely immune to our attempts to model it and guesswork. What works so far, is vaccines and a degree of restriction during social interaction, ie masks, distancing and well ventilated buildings. I say ‘so far’ because there isn’t enough long term data on the vaccines, but to date it looks very promising.

My point on the ‘unforeseen’ is that while the virus continues to be an unknown risk to public health it would seem prudent to keep some measures in place rather than this guff about ‘freedom day’. The capacity to overwhelm the health service is still there, the capacity to absorb too much public health resource and starve other treatments is still there. We have too manage this risk in the absence of hard data which means a degree of prudence and public education which talk of ‘freedom day’ undermines.

Is freedom day going to matter though? I haven't seen a single supermarket say that it will remove the need for masks for example but when I've been in supermarkets none of them enforce the law around wearing them anyway.

The scientific evidence shows that there is a 1 in 10,000 chance of you catching the virus in public, almost all spread is via family and friends meeting in the home, a place where masks are never worn.

Why don't we just not require masks in public but mandate them in homes? That is what the scientific evidence suggests but of course the lunacy of all of this is that will never happen.