Show us the evidence that every single person in the uk needs to be vaccinated to stop a variant.
secondly, tell us how and when every person in the world will be vaccinated.
third, I am not anti-vax. I believe it works unlike some.
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secondly, tell us how and when every person in the world will be vaccinated.
third, I am not anti-vax. I believe it works unlike some.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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Cases?There are more cases in the uk than the USA and the gap is getting wider by the day.
Wait for their deaths and hospital admission numbers in the next 4-6 weeks.
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GM VACCINE UPDATE:
Latest Vaccine Update by Population Percentage for 10 GM boroughs
Borough/ First Dose / Both Doses - TODAY V YESTERDAY
BOLTON 77.8% / 62.4% V 77.7%/ 62.2% Up 0.3
BURY 79.2% / 63.5% V 79.1% / 63.1% Up 0.5
MANCHESTER 62.6% / 43.9% V 62.5% / 43.7% Up 0.3
OLDHAM 74.7% / 58.5% V 74.7% / 58.2% Up 0.3
ROCHDALE 75.4% / 59.9% V 75.3% / 59.4% Up 0.6
SALFORD 69.6% / 49.3% V 69.6% / 49.1% Up 0.2
STOCKPORT 83.7% / 66.9% V 83.7% / 66.6% Up 0.3
TAMESIDE 79.3% / 64.5% V 79.3%/ 64.3% Up 0.2
TRAFFORD 81.2% / 65.6% V 81.2/ 65.5% UP 0.1
WIGAN 82.5% / 66.5% V 82.5% / 66.4% Up 0.1
Low numbers again today but Sundays often are.
Trafford from best on 1.0% to worst - joint with Wigan on just 0.1%!
Rochdale up most on 0.6%
Latest Vaccine Update by Population Percentage for 10 GM boroughs
Borough/ First Dose / Both Doses - TODAY V YESTERDAY
BOLTON 77.8% / 62.4% V 77.7%/ 62.2% Up 0.3
BURY 79.2% / 63.5% V 79.1% / 63.1% Up 0.5
MANCHESTER 62.6% / 43.9% V 62.5% / 43.7% Up 0.3
OLDHAM 74.7% / 58.5% V 74.7% / 58.2% Up 0.3
ROCHDALE 75.4% / 59.9% V 75.3% / 59.4% Up 0.6
SALFORD 69.6% / 49.3% V 69.6% / 49.1% Up 0.2
STOCKPORT 83.7% / 66.9% V 83.7% / 66.6% Up 0.3
TAMESIDE 79.3% / 64.5% V 79.3%/ 64.3% Up 0.2
TRAFFORD 81.2% / 65.6% V 81.2/ 65.5% UP 0.1
WIGAN 82.5% / 66.5% V 82.5% / 66.4% Up 0.1
Low numbers again today but Sundays often are.
Trafford from best on 1.0% to worst - joint with Wigan on just 0.1%!
Rochdale up most on 0.6%
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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It certainly is. We’re third on a list of total tests behind the USA and India. We’ve done 40M more than China!!The rate of testing has to be a factor. The UK is currently testing more than most of Europe put together I think?
Johnny Mars Bar
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It certainly is. We’re third on a list of total tests behind the USA and India. We’ve done 40M more than China!!
I wouldn’t believe a thing coming out of China tbh.
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And the 40% who are vaccinated aren’t all double either.That’s more like it, that 60% figure was pretty worrying
Why are people getting excited about infection rates?
Surely the main thing is death rates. As restrictions are lifted, it is obvious that they will rise.
But as proven, restrictions just put infections/deaths off for a different date. The data is showing that deaths are much lower per infection than before vaccines.
The hospitals are filling with people who are still needing treatment, but much less are actually dying.
The majority are people who are unvaccinated. Or people less likely to die in the first place.
We are now entering a phase were it is anti vaxxers that will be getting it more than most and some dying from it. Either way it sorts that problem as they are either virus vaccinated or dead. Not being unkind as this is their personal choice remember.
Surely the main thing is death rates. As restrictions are lifted, it is obvious that they will rise.
But as proven, restrictions just put infections/deaths off for a different date. The data is showing that deaths are much lower per infection than before vaccines.
The hospitals are filling with people who are still needing treatment, but much less are actually dying.
The majority are people who are unvaccinated. Or people less likely to die in the first place.
We are now entering a phase were it is anti vaxxers that will be getting it more than most and some dying from it. Either way it sorts that problem as they are either virus vaccinated or dead. Not being unkind as this is their personal choice remember.
HelloCity
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HelloCity
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Why are people getting excited about infection rates?
Surely the main thing is death rates. As restrictions are lifted, it is obvious that they will raise.
But as proven, restrictions just put infections/deaths off for a different date. The data is showing that deaths are much lower per infection than before vaccines.
The hospitals are filling with people who are still needing treatment, but much less are actually dying.
The majority are people who are unvaccinated. Or people less likely to die in the first place.
We are now entering a phase were it is anti vaxxers that will be getting it more than most and some dying from it. Either way it sorts that problem as they are either virus vaccinated or dead. Not being unkind as this is their personal choice remember.
Higher infection rates lead to greater variants.
More people in hospitals means less staff dealing with people with other illnesses.
BobKowalski
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You’d need the figure for single vaccinated to do that calculation? The 60% figure was for fully vaccinated I thought I heard?
The point is more to demonstrate how a 66% hospitalisation rate for vaccinated people is not necessarily a worrying thing. If out of a 1000 people, all fully vaccinated, you have 10 people hospitalised, then a 100% of people hospitalised would be vaccinated. You need the raw data to make an informed judgement, not just the headline figure.
In any event, it turns out they gave duff info, so this has been a colossal waste of time anyway :)
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