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This was 'retweeted' by Eran Segal who has been the go to on Israel data since the turn of the year. It doesn't sound good, praying it's maybe not quite so bad as it reads?

Very short thread if you click the link. Waning immunity from vaccines already?
 
ayrshire_blue said:


This was 'retweeted' by Eran Segal who has been the go to on Israel data since the turn of the year. It doesn't sound good, praying it's maybe not quite so bad as it reads?

Very short thread if you click the link. Waning immunity from vaccines already?
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I suppose if it's like flu and the flu jab then this is unalarming, if slightly depressing news. It was always said that we would likely need annual boosters and it will need to be tweaked each year as the virus evolves.
 
ctwrd said:
Disgraceful attitude you have.

I do not look forward to the time when we look back at lockdown and wonder why all the world leaders followed each other like sheep.
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I apologise.

You, like the rest of us, need love and kindness, and not judgement, brother.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I suppose if it's like flu and the flu jab then this is unalarming, if slightly depressing news. It was always said that we would likely need annual boosters and it will need to be tweaked each year as the virus evolves.
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Yeah I get that, but in the short and medium term it's not great IF things are waning so quickly. The author of the thread goes on to say that someone vaccinated in January is 3x more likely to have symptomatic infection than someone in May.

That may be entirely normal and expected, it's not my strong point, but as it amplifies the requirement for boosters one wonders where and when they're going to come from and how global distribution of boosters are going to be developed and supplied when we have so many developing countries and such like not even able to get first jabs in.
 
worsleyweb said:
you seem to take whatever is most negative. The rise is 4 percent on the same day last week. Yes we will see. I am hopeful.
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Not that you're taking a positive you shouldn't, but there's a reason they provide the seven day average. We've gotten used to the predictable variation from day to day, but that doesn't account for systemic fluctuations.

Like, for example, test numbers being down week on week, two out of the last three days. Steady on the third. First time in ages they've not shown a straightfoward increase.

Working something meaningful about the overall trend out of those two tiny points of data, case growth slowing, test numbers receding, is like working out the average height of a dog by looking at a shizu and a greyhound. Not advised.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Yeah I get that, but in the short and medium term it's not great IF things are waning so quickly. The author of the thread goes on to say that someone vaccinated in January is 3x more likely to have symptomatic infection than someone in May.

That may be entirely normal and expected, it's not my strong point, but as it amplifies the requirement for boosters one wonders where and when they're going to come from and how global distribution of boosters are going to be developed and supplied when we have so many developing countries and such like not even able to get first jabs in.
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Long term I wouldn’t worry about vaccine availability even if the whole world needs two every year. The pharmaceutical industry will just build new facilities and ramp up production and make a fortune in the process. Best advice is buy some shares in a fund that focuses on pharma.
 
Gabriel said:
‘Tearing the pants out of it’ so to speak. Sometimes wonder if that’s what the authorities actually want, but I do fear there could be many cases, particularly in London, where many remain unvaccinated. Is there also not a danger that the more of it there is floating about in concentrated areas, the more vaccinated people are likely to contract it as well? Anxious weeks ahead.
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My daughter, a Covid (Care of the Elderly) consultant is convinced of it.
The numbers are stark when it comes to deaths from respitory diseases in winter as opposed to summer. Even Chris Whitty aluded to this a few weeks ago.
 
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